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Turkey’s sale of Russian Su-57 was unprofitable

The sale of fifth-generation Russian fighters in Turkey may be a failed character.

According to the materials presented by the Russian edition of the Military Review, the sale of fifth-generation fighter Su-57 to Turkey is only profitable at first glance. According to experts, in reality, such a move on the part of Moscow can be destructive, both from an economic and from a strategic point of view.

According to experts, Turkey manifests itself as an unreliable partner, in connection with which, Su-57 fighters, as well as Triumph C-400, can be at the complete disposal of NATO. Moreover, Turkey’s purchase of Russian Su-57 fighters will almost certainly require a loan from Russia, the percentage of which is extremely unprofitable.

“How Turkey will dispose of Russian weapons in general is a question that has not yet been answered. It is likely that the appearance of the S-400 and the hypothetical appearance of the Su-57 from a NATO country will ultimately play in favor of NATO, at least in terms of obtaining technologies used by Russia. <...> If this again requires the allocation of a loan at an interest rate that is several times lower than the percentage for domestic credit companies in Russia, then there is no need to talk about the economic effect of such a transaction. It should be recalled that we are selling the S-400 to Turkey with the funds of the Russian loan. "- notes the publication.

On the other hand, Turkey has not yet made a final decision on the purchase of Russian Su-57, and it is quite likely that it could abandon these combat aircraft by trying to maintain relations with NATO.

 

I will add more. In the East, used to bargain hard. Turks need to bring down the price of the Americans. They say we have a choice. That's all.

It is understandable that it is not profitable. The fact is that the 5th generation aircraft itself is not yet and is not expected in the foreseeable future. And what is called PAK-FA, aka T-50, aka Su-57 and so on. It's just a CONCEPT without the engine and basic parameters of a 5th generation fighter - stealth, the ability to maintain super cruising speed without Mach 2 afterburners, and much more. And in the Su-57, weapons on suspensions and not inside the engine case have not yet been created. He still flies on engines from the Su-37. What "5th generation" are we talking about? I'm not even talking about electronics. A crude dummy product of the military-industrial complex for eyewash and budget money allocation. The Indians have already caught this. And the Turks, in fact, have NOTHING to sell, except for shame. Therefore, it is clear that no one will buy an expensive pacifier. And NATO countries will only be convinced of this, if this dummy is delivered to Turkey. But for parades on Red Square, this miracle will come down. Three of these empty, unarmed aircraft are quite capable of flying from Kubinka to the Chkalovsky airfield (100 km.). And the announcer will broadcast in a loud voice - "A squadron of the newest fighter aircraft of the fifth plus, plus, generation, which has no analogues in the world, is flying over the stands of Red Square !!!"

Turks are not worse than Hindus do business. So all this is completely natural and completely ugly. In such a scenario, I keep the whole project in a rag, then suddenly at the very end I raise the price twice. Here or the planned care of a partner (and this is no longer a pity), or skanadal with a bummer for him. And then you can go back and almost to the same price as a super favor. But still a little more than it was. After such methods in negotiations with me in the future, no one ever bargains. Understand the final pricing scheme. Come, pay and happily leave ...

Interesting. Sell ​​the plane to Turkey which is not yet available. Just started testing the engine for him. When will be adopted and whether it will be accepted at all is unknown. And already what discussions have begun. First you need to test it, then put it into service. Get a dozen or so, "test", and then you can talk about possible sales. The American aircraft has been in service with the United States, Japan and Israel for several years. Most of the problems have been identified and are in serial production. Ours will be ready sometime, or maybe not. Why should the Turks bother with our planes, and then also ask for spare parts for them, which we are very reluctant to supply. Pure speculation of the Turks, and our scribblers are already talking with might and main about sales, the shortcomings of American aircraft and our advantages.

The quality of the F-35 will not improve from this! As they say, "they", absolutely raw plane. Therefore, the United States is pushing it to at least someone.

It is very likely that Turkey is blackmailing the United States to buy more profitable from them. As soon as the deal suits her, she will refuse the Russian offer.

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