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US: Russian air defense systems disgraced the whole world

In the US, they declared complete futility of Russian air defense systems.

The American radio company Voice of America recognized Russian complexes S-400 "Triumph" as unpromising and dispelled the myth about their reliable protection of airspace from aircraft and rockets. Such conclusions were drawn on the basis of an incident in which a Russian Il-20 plane was shot down, and Russian complexes not only failed to detect how the radio-electronic reconnaissance aircraft had been shot down, but neither Israeli missiles nor F-16 fighters attacked.

The opinion of American journalists is based on the arguments of the military analyst Alexander Golts, who emphasized that Russian systems are indeed futile, as indicated by a number of facts.

"If the Israeli military really warned the Russian military, already entering the Syrian airspace, a minute before the approach to the targets, it means that it destroys the myth about the effectiveness of the air defenses there", - says Goltz.

In fact, Russian S-400 complexes can track air targets at distances of up to 600 kilometers, i.e., theoretically, the rise of four Israeli fighters into the air should have already been noticed by Russian air defense systems.

"Then it turns out that the newest systems of C-400 simply did not see Israeli aircraft with all the consequences that ensue from this. If they warned in advance, Russian air defense according to available agreements simply missed them ", - the expert emphasized.

I totally agree with you. Or maybe there were no people on the plane? Or some kind of suicide bomber. They wrote that the Syrians had already paid for those with 300. As it is necessary to give something ...

The Jews did what they did. I have one question for our leadership of the Air Force and Air Defense in Syria. How did it happen that the ZRDN C-200 opened fire on targets almost across the landing glide path of the Khmeimim airbase without being convinced that our aircraft were not in the affected area ??? Here it is necessary to understand. Maybe even a betrayal.

Artyom thermal and infrared traps are fired when a missile with a thermal or infrared homing head is hovered, the C-200 rocket is guided by a radar signal according to this thermal trap will not work, in this case equipment based on suppressing the radar signal is used, or range, i.e. staging interference noise. The IL-20 came in for a landing well, and it was probably already in the landing configuration, and he did not have time, but he was not ready for a rocket attack at his airfield.

Oleg see Konashenko's briefing there, everything is popular and intelligible.

Sergei in the system of state identification "Friend-Alien" has a third position, as "Unidentified" with the sign "H" on the verte it is so, according to this system I can not tell you more in open sources. When the missile is launched to the target, all decisions have already been made, the target can be fired at in all three modes. The decision to fire at the target is made by a person. The only thing is if the target was fired on according to the sign of "Alien" and later changed to the sign "Own" on the given target channel, if the calculation has time, it can stop pointing the missile at the target. You must understand that the mistake is not that the missile was transferred to another target, but that it all happened practically on the landing glide path of the Khmeimim airfield. It had to happen sooner or later. Such tragedies do not occur due to accidents (for example, such as the requestor does not work), but a chain of coincidences. Whatever this happens, you need to require everyone to fulfill certain conditions and comply with the rules. Do you seriously think that, for example, an aircraft made using the "Stealth" technology, such as the F-35 or F-22, when executing a b / s in the enemy's air defense zone, will turn on its interrogator? To discover yourself additionally? They overcome the air defense system in almost complete radio silence; their onboard radio systems operate in a minimal configuration.

Why are there any unnecessary comments on the air defense complexes, and the fact that we were told that our military equipment is the best in every country so that they would not raise a panic, I was as outraged that the defense industry was growing up refused to equip the army with tanks of armat to buy, and then the question arose: where, then, are Russian armored tanks being made? If they still need to be bought, then this is not our development, not our defense factories, I think if our factories produce military equipment, then the equipment should go straight to military units.

I read it by chance and only later saw that this daub was composed on the radio Sloboda. But you can understand them, they get money for this and are not frail, they regularly peck from the State Department's hands.

I don’t understand why the reconnaissance aircraft doesn’t have a fire-extinguishing system, those that are fired when detected by the system, when the system realizes that a rocket flies at it, the more so the complex didn’t have recognition of someone else’s, which means it falls under the discharge of all the missiles threatening the aircraft

What does the air defense system have to do with this? One thing is not clear how the 20 IL was visible on the Russian radars, but the Israeli 4 F-16 is not there? Then how do they manage to shoot down drones, the size of a desk?

calculation of the Russian beech from the Donbass? Boeing shot down. Now Il-20 is easy?

juggling example. what have s-xnumx? in the garden of elder - in Kiev uncle.

I hope some time will come when journalists who write such articles or editors-in-chief will finally be held accountable for their words, but for now you can continue to write nonsense in the hope that people like a flock of sheep will believe the nonsense you write here. In Syria, there are obsolete C-200 80-s of production years, which are significantly inferior to C-300 and especially C-400. And most importantly, when the AN20 aircraft was shot down, the in-out / out-of-band system did not work on it.

Saw, bangnul already, 15 people at a time

But what about the USSR? Was not a superpower, half the world controlling? What are these powerful and invincible US in 90 not scolded like Yugoslavia? Everything was in ruin

Thank you. And very
specifically.

Probably, first you need to try C-300. If it seems a little, you can order C-400 too. Try it, it will be interesting.

HBO, handsome! Totally agree with you. Before yelling let's bahnem, let everyone for himself answer, he is ready to part with the comfort of comfort and go to the blood and mud to kill and be killed.

And what else is so bitter that has to happen so that "ALL OWN TIME" would come?

And to think up an excuse before your own soldiers' mothers, are you going to be a bastard? The throat of horseradish. Or think brains otshiblo? Of the two rams on the path, one must be smarter. Continue to continue or nponyal already ...

These tales we have already heard. But the Turks, the Chinese and the Indians seem to be not)))

Yes Leo, you are right, the Ukrainian Air Defense has already repeatedly knocked down passengers, they should be prohibited from using complex air defense systems. Let them gallop on the maidana and a sea of ​​anger and bile there spew, you look, and then the country jumps all and skips

What is the author beguiled. In Syria, there are C-200, quite old, of them, and babooned, not C-400 ...

How much more can you swing? Few Malaysian Boeing?

Valera, you would not believe

Putin has never violated international law, and will not violate. The main pillar, the supremacy of international law.

What do they write with boiling water when we want to put them in Iran.

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A chicken-feed any. See and start up this, as they say in Odessa, two big differences.

Totally agree with you. Everything has its time.

How can you read anything published by Radio Svoboda?

The headline of the article "Russian air defense systems disgraced the whole world" is a fake article. Konashenkov at the briefing popularly explained and showed everything. And he showed information from the primary radars of the situation of the command post of the S-400 air defense missile system in real time and the real situation for a given time interval. Well, where are the targets under the cover of "interference" Everything is selected and the F-16 is in full view. Turn it not fake. Now you understand that everything was under control. Well, the Israeli pilot did what he did, it is on their conscience and believe they will answer everything in due time. Regarding the response to the destruction of 4 F-16s. For the destruction of these targets by the S-400 or S-300 systems, it was only necessary to give an order to open fire by a higher command post and after about 40 seconds the destruction of the 1st F16,46 seconds of the second, 52 seconds of the third , 58sec of the fourth, when these targets are located at a distance of about 75-100 km from the position of the firing anti-aircraft missile launcher S-400 or S-300. Well, that's all they would be "karachun". The probability of hitting an aerodynamic target with two missiles is 0,9. But unfortunately, this could not be done at this point in time, since firstly the IL-20 was not attacked by these F-16s, and secondly, in this situation, the Russian air defense would have violated many things and not only international law. Understand, you all start a war against another state is easy, but it’s more difficult not to look like an aggressor. God grant our guys endurance. Turn it, I know how their hands itch to punish the bastards, and press the buttons: Start-START block "Everything has its time, and if our" partners "don't come to their senses, turn it over it will have to be done. We bang necessarily bang ...

Uv. Petrovich will be enough to justify our military and equipment. We were shot down in Turkey, we were shot down in Syria and we are once again engaged in one chatter: - "Yes, we will answer, yes, we will strike, etc." How many times the United States and its associates struck Syria and we only have verbal threats and whining at the UN. If we support the Assad regime and as we declare the Syrian people, all objects must be protected, not just our bases. One gets the impression that we are simply afraid of colliding with NATO, and our equipment is not very good. We over-praise our technology too, although not experts know that electronics we have and it has always been so. We didn’t know how to do basic things: televisions, tape recorders, and even more so computers. I do not support the United States in their desire to dominate the world at any cost, but I have always believed that there was and is only one superpower, the United States. They do what they want and spit on everyone because they can afford it and we can't. Before our eyes, they dissected a large and friendly Yugoslavia, and we watched.

It is even their own and the fact that the Syrians do not know how to fight them, not the problem of the Russian Federation. But Ukraine has a super modern rework of junk 60 from which everyone is sick, even yourself

And where does X400 on the Russian base and with 200 from the Syrians, who do not know how to manage them? Let the voice of truth tell the museum of drones in haimim.

Inhabitants of worthless country in Russia yards sweep and their wives trade themselves. I congratulate you already 6 milionov.eto every third able-bodied kakol.

They exchanged 15 guys for the delivery of complexes with 300, now Izrail will not be asked. Can it all be pre-planned? PSDalek from the war, but I had such an opinion.

Petrovich to your information this information is not secret: C-300 has 6 target channels, 12 launchers for 4 missiles total one BC-48 rocket can simultaneously destroy up to 6 targets with targeting to one target (up to the target channel) to two missiles or as an option on one target 12 missiles. the minimum interval of launching missiles .... well, very small. Destruction from the first to the sixth target can happen well, say in tens of seconds

It is necessary to face the truth: hit one cheek (Turkey) Pushkin set the second cheek (Israel) I'm not talking about the countless number of Russian servicemen killed. So you can not fight, you are far from Khrushchev and Stalin.

"Voice of America" ​​is our old friends. Their opinion should be especially valuable.

Yes, in Syria, on one of our bases there are two installations of 400, it's not even a division. Basically, for covering the base, a shell with-1 is used, there are enough of them. C-400 is needed mainly for protection at distant approaches, single targets. At one 4 rocket installation, for two 8, two missiles on the target total: you can work on 4 targets, then you need to reload the ammunition, and this time. Conclusion: with-400 will be applied, only in case of emergency. One installation or even two does not solve anything, the air defense system must be echeloned, with an ammunition that reflects the first wave of enemy attack.

I confirm about myself: 30 years of service in the air defense, mastered the interception complex Mig 25P, and M6, is.s-300.

Yes, Syria does not have C-400 systems. But they are in the Russian army in Syria.

and who ever thought about the fact that with-400 and there is no trace in Syria? sheep! there with-200

The systems must be adapted to the country where the ancient systems are sold in Syria and not even with 300

We Bahnem necessarily bahnem, but then, that the whole world in the dust ...

The author does not seem to notice that according to the agreement with Israel, Russian complexes do not prevent Israel from bombing Hezbollah in Syria. And so C-400 Can destroy planes of Israel right on takeoff. Let's see how they will continue to fly. The answer is for Russia. Up to 26, flights over Syria and over the sea are prohibited. And during this time, Inan will transfer with-300 with his crews and the Israelis will not be able to fly at low altitudes above the sea.

Boys, what do you know about S-300 or C-400, what do you know about the war ??? Go play in the sandbox in the tin soldiers, specialists in the sofa, computer game geniuses.

What do you know about S-300 and the WAR? Go play soldiers in the sandbox.

What do you know about the boy about St. 300 and about the war ??

all this is part of the information war, the struggle for military markets. no need to pay attention to it, neither I nor you know all the political subtleties and blame the Russian side with cowardice is not worth it.

I have never heard of such a VUS - "military analyst". The stupid idiot who saw the army from the monitor. I served on the S-75 in the city of Mary and our P-18 saw and accompanied the F-14 taking off from Mashhad. 1986 year.

That's how they are raskudahtalsya.smeshno read.ukrotupizni brains include if you have them .. although what it's about me.

How many Banders there have divorced ... "Voice of America," then? And, is it accidental that the publication is sponsored from the US and is used as an information warfare tool against Russia? Here the answer is obvious.
Alexander Golts? Does anyone know about him at all, except "Voice of America"? Another "great" expert ".

27 million dead ..., and the Germans are better ... ???. Only "MORAL FREAK" can talk there. I don't like go to the border and live there. Did you actually serve in the army? And what planes to shoot and what - they will decide without you.

The most dangerous enemy is an underrated enemy! (c) So, let them criticize! :-)

Those whom you call cotton wool are good decent people, unlike the corrupt liberas to which you belong.

Mr. Andreyev, did you serve in the army? Or do you draw all the information from the "box"?

In the army, did Zimbabwe serve? Do not carry nonsense, such if there was something in the most perilous parts of the very beginning of 90X ... and yet, there is no such figure-trilliard, neuch ...

And your parents, who do you think? Soviet schoolgirls, then you are the same VATA!

And Ukraine is super? Sucked to death of anyone!

Super power, return the Crimea, Donetsk and Lugansk, and show the power of your army, and your super weapons, and of course hang gliders or biplanes at least !!!

Such a comment could only be written by the most stupid, to put it mildly, man. You would not have been in sight, do not be our Victory in the Great Patriotic War.

Do not undertake to discuss such serious topics. You obviously don't have enough gray cells for this. For a start, read the Barbarossa plan at least in translation. Maybe then Adolf Hitler's point of view on the standard of living that should have awaited the citizens of the USSR after its seizure by our respected German partners will become at least a little clear to you.

Yes, children. You talk about things that you never heard of. With 400 ?! Well, at least some of the parameters of this system and the principle of its work you know. If not, then just shut up. Look idiots

In some comments, some Banderlogists are dissatisfied with themselves and the way they live, self-denial is close to zero ... Israel is cut off at the root of course, but it's too early to identify it in the stall; for this, Egypt must be linked with Syria and Lebanon with one goal, to remove the US influence in the region (and this is already the process is irreversible), but it takes time ... Everything goes in a spiral, including historical cycles and processes, the time for their fall has not yet come. You can not agree, but as a graduate in international relations I know what I'm talking about. All health and sanity

Vatu type of the Yarusian even lobotomy will not save. This, blah, just finished a meaningless protoplasm. Such in fantastic fighters show (such as secret scientists have grown such a formless clod which is kept in a titanium chamber filled with inert gas, and this cat rushes walls and tries to dissolve them with its secretions). Already officially through the teeth of the Defense Ministry confesses that no 1 mines, and for 40 minutes there was a warning, a week later (when the agiotage subsides) they admit that the Jews had already drunk an hour at the base as coffee, when the antique pepelatsky got into the sea ...
What was brought down from the Russian installation, the Russian missile, was initially not disputed, and most likely knocked down the Russian calculation (now all the Syrians who witnessed this circus are demanded by the GRU of all bung and ends in the water). So no - at watnegi all cry in their phantom world where they are all rocked for 2 thousand years.

We have rubber tanks. Getting a missile in such a tank is amortizing and flying backwards. Let's spin out in case of anything.

You cannot judge Russian weapons by the comments of the Americans. Nobody knows the whole truth about this fight yet. But the fact that Americans and Jews like them beat in the back and cover themselves with chemical attacks, which they themselves create (already proven, caught red-handed), suggests that they are afraid of a Russian response. Listen to "voices" less

Toshnilovo, not comments ... if only they learned to bark, but how jackals squeal "shame on the jungle"

Cancel all the parades. Leave one for Victory Day, every 5 years. And then they arrange the show "We have the best weapon in the world and there is no such analogue" for every occasion and without. But it turns out that we cannot resist Israel. SHAME Russia. Under liberals, Russia can only be written with a small letter

But on all channels, "Russian weapons are the best in the world !!!" ... The crone ridicules the enemy, in particular the Americans, allegedly their army is backward, the soldiers are weak-homosexual, transgender, afraid of their own shadow, mice. The American technique is made of papier-mache, stupefied, broken, weapons clinch, in the mess and ruin in the army ... Ukraine, Britain, other countries with whom it does not manage to make friends are ridiculed too. But our warriors, the bravest, the strong, the equilibrists, the horse will stop at a gallop , landing without a parachute, battlements on the Kremlin wall-their work- Aikvando, they killed the Dead Sea ... Our technique is the best, Ren-tv buzzed all ears, they say, we almost conquered the universe. Our ships are unsinkable, tanks are invulnerable, missiles are capable of knocking down the ships of evil aliens on approach to the solar system! ) ... I know what is really happening in the Russian army! It's been served. The technician is without engines, they are driven out to the parachute in tow, they will tint to the show of cones, the officers are always drunk, the soldiers are dirty, smelly, laundry, in one form they go for years, sap They are worn down to holes, in the winter they are wrapped up in towels so as not to freeze their feet, they feed them in the dining rooms a hundred years ago with a pearl barley with larvae of flies, cabbage, which they wander here and there with boots! They do not know how to prepare a military one, they can not shoot a demobil. They clean the toilet, yes, they are real warriors. Disgrace !!!! False lies! Hypocrisy! Pokazushniki !!! Corruption in the country, trilliards steal, people are sitting on salary 8-9 thousand rubles! But we feed the whole world. Hell burn!

What is the best weapon there, rubbery? If it were the best, so the planes would not have flown the enemy in Syria and would not have bombed everyone in a row. We did not catch up with the Amexos for another 20 years with such reforms. Therefore, these amerikos were taxing and will steer. We only have to praise our weapons in theory, and on the exercises to show junk, which was developed in the USSR.

All questions to Shoigu! He is responsible for the weapons he took.

We can only boast about it - but in reality - zinc ... Che, zassali on Jewish planes to shoot? And what about the American will be ?? Damn, it would be better for us the Germans in the second world captured - you see life would be fine ...

A useless weapon, worthless country

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