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Turkey criticized the S-400 and will buy American Patriot

Turkey decided to abandon the purchase of the Russian C-400 "Triumph" ... and criticized them.

The Turkish news agency Anadolu, referring to a source in the Turkish government, published an article stating that the Triumph C-400 Russian anti-aircraft missile systems will not be put into service with the army because they do not have sufficient prospects. As a more valuable replacement for them, the possibility of buying a large batch of US Patriot complexes will be considered.

Turkish journalists, apparently to justify the choice of Turkey in favor of the Patriot complexes, criticized the Russian air defense systems, stressing that their use requires a large staff of highly qualified specialists and appropriate maintenance, in addition, the effectiveness of the Russian C-400 "Triumph" is still under big question, since these complexes did not receive real combat use, while the American “Patriot” were "Tested by time".

Experts, in turn, note that the main reason for criticism of the Russian air defense / missile defense systems is pressure from the United States, in particular, Washington warned Erdogan that in the case of the purchase of Russian weapons, Turkey would be left without F-35 fighters.

Earlier, there was also evidence that the main purpose of buying Turkey C-400, is to copy them, in order to create their own air defense systems.

 

Interesting! I have collected C-400 four years ago !? What are they waiting for, where is it a tax?

Fools you. Your neighbors on the landing do not give a shit about you and you Nantes. But at the same time, consider that any government cares about its people.

Very good. There is no point selling C-400 to a NATO country.

Not replaceable was not and never will.

Friendly, you think except him in the country some morons live, not the shame of the people.

No wonder. Turks are always on their minds and can not be a reliable partner.

Well done Ottomans !!! Once again, they gave a bald shortcut on the back of the road ... And we served them right.

... and not to take out the money.

I agree with this context.

Correctly said! Putin should be left in foreign policy, he does it. And inside, Stalin is needed so that leeches - officials landed, but they don’t think about anything except their pockets. And return the confiscation of property (including relatives) to the Criminal Code so that you think before you seize it.

Excellent ++++

Absolutely agree with you. A bunch of boarded-up bots and snotty theorists from the number of sperm cells and under-table pedestrians of the nineties are sitting and trying to talk about the USSR, in which they have never lived. As, however, and abroad. Even a third of Americans did not have then, and now - work, medical insurance, a separate house and car, could send their children to college or college, retired before Soviet citizens. Comparing a society with a wild stratification for the poor and the rich with a society where the majority possessed the listed and decimal coefficient (the ratio of incomes of the 10% of the wealthiest to the 10% less) did not exceed 2. And about the complexes, the army and the weapons, you are right. Putin found an option for how to build a new army, how to start promotion of the industry, completely destroyed in 90. It is a pleasure to look at the workshops of working plants in Yekaterinburg and Nizhny Tagil, which in 90-e gap gaped, and former workers were dragged to the dump, like a job, pick out the metal in order to pass it into scrap metal and buy something for food.

And you haylo close and see first how they live and work there. Everyone wants to live in their own country, and not to go somewhere

Vlad, you have a rough tongue. I haven’t done anything. As soon as the oil fell below 100 $, so Putin’s whole genius has been exhausted!

And where do you come from, patriots? Russia has once again dropped below the baseboard. The Turks shot down our plane, Putin screamed - we will not forgive. Stop buying Turkish tomatoes. The Turks said - buy your C-7 400, we say - we take tomatoes

But what is from whom to choose another? And he to himself and to his will not be?

Alex 1955 don't worry. When supplying these types of air defense systems for export, this will not bring damage to our defense capability, since our "partners" USA have also succeeded in building multi-channel air defense systems using both phased array and AFAR, and they will not find anything new for them, but the nuances that of course, they will not be supplied there for the air defense system of the Russian Armed Forces. In this case, the trick is in the nuances. I will not disclose the secret that if I tell you about the development of the S-300 in the late 70s, our designers had documentation on the development of the American Patriot on the table. Our designers were tasked not to copy the Patriot, but to make the S-300 much better and more promising, of course, all the shortcomings of the Patriot were taken into account. This information is from the person who participated in the development of the S-300.

The whole story with Turkey about buying C-400 is that the Turks want to produce their own complex on the basis of C-400, but for this we need to transfer the production technology to them, and then the Turks first with us (screwdriver production) , and then independently proceeded to the production of its similar system. Ours do not want to do this because they understand that the release of this type of weapons by the Turks simply cannot be mastered by themselves. This type of weapon belongs to high-tech production. This is practically an artificial intellect. In this complex, practically all branches of production ranging from the chemical industry, materials science, digital microprocessor technology with mathematical analysis and software, the theory of ED and HF signals, in general there are a lot of things are brought together. Only a few can produce and develop complexes of this order in the world. Here is an example to you about the sale and supply of not only complexes but also the production technology of C-300's older brother to China. Well, probably no one will doubt that China is a highly technological country, including the issue of digital electronics. Well, what did they do? And it turned out they have an analogue of the alleged C-300 called PQ-9. Yes, he looks like, well, only. I will not delve into the details this is boring. Independently the further development of it they failed. Therefore, they queued up for the purchase of the next generation of the C-300 development, the C-400.

For once, there was a normal response Men! I fully support you!

It is not clear just why you need to throw 30 billion at NPPs, anyway?

Right, Vlad. Once there have been criticism, it means that the Supreme is doing everything correctly.

1. Thank God they refused, it means that the developments of the Russian military will remain a secret for some time.
2. Proven by time - i.e. translated into Russian, this means long outdated.
Well, let yourself and use the fact that even a little bit modern drones can not knock down ...

I agree. Correctly said.

Well done, just those who pi ... t probably did not live under Gorbach and Yeltsin.

It's better to be a kremlebot than "to die behind glass on a fatty sandwich"

Poor.

Well done, everything is correct. I remember that in the era of perestroika, when there was a smell of civilian life, there were not very many such "specialists", but now there are a dime a dozen. Where were you then. Even the communists were afraid then to take power into their own hands.

Keep on 100%

I wonder if you kremleboty copy such comments or write them manually?)))

So you say they still fly on our engines into space.

That's right! Such an abomination is sitting and criticizing Putin. Where were the bawlers now, didn’t be Putin? They say that he knows about ..Russia, and how much he got from drunkard Yeltsin! Who stopped the war in Chechnya !? How many guys were killed there! ? What kind of military-industrial complex was under Yeltsin and what he has become now!? You, the critics only have to fill their belly, and you don’t think that you need to protect Russia, or you think that the Pindos will feed you, they have not fed Ukraine They do not need a strong Russia, it has always been like that. And the defense of the state requires huge expenses! But of course you know everything is better than anyone else, you are ready-made presidents, but not assessed according to dostoinstvu.Vot give you power, then if you chose freaked out !!!! Ugh on you ask ... here Pindosovskie, it’s just disgusting to listen to you, trolls nasty !!! Not a single clever word, not a single sensible sentence is one poison, bile, envy, anger and hatred!

You said correctly

5 points

HBO Iraq and Libya are not threatening us so far, Russia is more likely waiting for the scenario of the USSR. And the top officials of our government lead to this, by a strange coincidence, most of them are LEN.

Drugan Erdogan !!! .... who understands that, in principle, a supersonic rocket cannot fly at Mach 20 speeds and did not believe in the multi-producer producers comrades Shoigu-Rogozin +++ as they did not believe in the hole from the enemy drill in the orbital stage - they understood that it would be so But the believers would be very upset and would have to ask questions to the great military experts, who happily informed about this deal .... And whether it will be ..... with friends from the Middle Kingdom, occupying in front of Siberians - Eastern Siberia ...

Wow, how patriotic. All forgiving Russia warned Turkey. America is to blame. Fuck it all, our fools. Erdogan in his own, soon will arrange an Islamic state. The military from the time of the ataturk fulfilled his covenant. What rurtia is a secular state. That is the reason for the coup. And about love Russia, for what? Possessing the most tasty resources, thanks to the ancestors of the slaves. The policy of the new rulers, to us. How to cattle.

Another whiner, by coincidence, not living in Russia. Or one and a half percent liberal-selling podindosnaya mold. But it is very similar to the juvenile worm from the bulk ass.

Rights one hundred percent!

And what, 08.08.08.-not an indicator ?????

I totally agree. Homeland must be protected and protected.

If I am not mistaken, the calculation was assumed not in money, but in food supplies ....

"Guest" I would completely agree with you if there is more than one thing: Namely, the attempted coup in Turkey after these events and the murder of our ambassador. Of course, there are still many questions, the answers to which could clarify the situation 100%. But the picture is roughly the following: seeing Pendosy after Erdogan came to power, who began to closely cooperate with us and became not accommodating to the United States, they undertook a number of provocations. F-16 fighters were lifted from the Tnzhirlik US Air Force Base in Turkey. which barred in the flight zone of the Russian Air Force, ours, according to agreements with the United States and the Turks, kept these corridors open so that there would be no accidental confrontation. Using this, the US special services organized this provocation (It was easier to ambush the SU-24, and this event was clearly videotaped by professional operators) but with the hands of the Turkish Air Force that did not support Erdogan. What happened happened. Well, then these same pilots took part in the attempted coup. Now they are in the Turkish prison (the expectation of death is worse than death itself) By the way, Chilik, who led the execution of our pilots, also ended up in prison (though today his fate is not known whether Allah is alive or not). The provocation did not work. Yes, our special services warned about Erdogan's coup. When there was a threat to his life and he flew by plane from the resort where he was resting, Europe did not allow his plane to land (wait out the coup) on its territory. He then landed in the Crimea and stayed for some time. (the information is practically reliable). Well, then, after the failure of these provocations, the murder of our ambassador is committed, coincidence, I do not think. and for all this, of course, the organizers are specials. services of the United States, of course, the performers are "freedom-loving patriotic" citizens of Turkey. Amers think that they are cunning, that their hands are clean, but they are mistaken in this, everyone who needs to know the truth and the nuances of these stories everyone knows. Here is such a policy of American "democracy". The most important thing is that we have brought the Pindos to schizophrenia, so we have no way back, if we now create a position for the amers, they will not miss their chance and end Russia once and for all. Will turn us into IRAQ or LIBYA. So brothers, think about your children and our future. and do not forget the graves of our ancestors who saved Russia for us. She is our Motherland, and Motherland is a mother, children do not choose a mother, they love her until their last hour. Yes, something pathetic he spoke, just boiled!

It is necessary to restore order in Syria, but not to the detriment of oneself. In Russia, there are a lot of worries, corrupt officials for corruption, housing and communal services in complete sludge, sn and pensions are small, medicine shines only on TV shows, because of them, they can’t get a job because of their duty, the guarantee is circular on a national basis. And you all praise Putin. Around him thieves and thrives!

What is what? What kind of nonsense poured? Look at this topic.

Modern weapons made according to modern technologies but produced in different countries have levels of the same order, the difference is in nuances. Well, for example: the question can the Patriot air defense missile system destroy the Caliber missile launcher at low and extremely low altitudes? Answer: Yes it can. Can the S-400 air defense missile system destroy the Tomahok missile system at low and extremely low altitudes? Answer: Yes it can. The same goes for the Air Force. So the main thing is the people who manage modern technology, it is the tactics and strategy for completing the assigned tasks and the ability to complete them, no matter how trivial it is to read. Well, now for the patriots and liberals in Russia: Russia is the only country in the world that can inflict unacceptable damage to the US Armed Forces in any part of the world, both using nuclear potential and conventional ones. No country in the world including China except Russia can create one. Modern weapons systems (by the way, those that were developed and released in the USSR) allow Russia to deliver a massive strike on any targets located in the vastness of our Earth, including in the airspace, carriers with warheads both with nuclear warheads and in "conventional execution ". The Americans have always understood this perfectly. So whoever can inflict on us will not correct the damage, then only we ourselves with the financial support of our "partners" sponsoring various structures that are trying to destabilize the situation in our country. We saw another attempt in the 90s at the beginning of 2000. We then saw and felt the echoes of what is happening in Syria. Modern terrorist armies are not a crowd of uncontrollable thugs. It is a highly organized, well-paid and armed mercenary army, no matter what flags it is flying under. They perform the tasks assigned to them by the owners. Yes, today we are practically the only ones in the world who are actively fighting against this evil. In my opinion, we have enough events on our territory in the Caucasus, in Beslan, in Moscow, in Volgodonsk. These are all links in the same chain. These are those measures against those countries that do not fit into the world order that the US elites have created for themselves. As they like to call themselves, they are "given by God", but by and large it is the country of terrorist number 1.

They shot down our DRY-SUSHKA, and the government creeps in and curses in front of the NATO country for 30 silversmiths, an excellent newest air defense system sells! Or, like, we are all friends and brothers who challenge the States or play a performance (temporary) that throws - China, Venezuela, Turkey, etc. No, guys, do not believe the Ottomans and the Chinese are innocent, they are not brothers to us!

Guys ale you about something about the article and the essence of it forgotten. Good with the liberals in the internet to fight on programs from Solovyov noise from them enough. Let's go on topic.

Well, if the current shit turns out great .. well, sort of all

Well, right!

Well, well ... If only our rockets were not really like our cars .. And then you know a lot of truths ... So surely say American shit .. Maybe our shit is a hundred times worse than Pindosovsky .. I don’t remember what it is we have collected at factories better than in the states

You saw Grachev, and who was the president, Yeltsin correctly, introduced 250 tanks into Grozny without support, you saw how our guys were slaughtered like sheep there. Bad - good Putin is not for you to decide

It looks like avia.pro is behind the times! Lives in the past! What for? Turkey American shit! They will buy the S-400, and then the Su-57, which is better than the F-35, which the Pentagon never taught to fly! The F-35 is an expensive toy, but the sense is "0". The Turks are great!

I fully support you.

Have you ever looked on the internet about this deal. And so they invented and decided to cast a shadow on the plate

Bravo!

Everything is already purchased.
Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlüt авavushoglu said that the purchase of Russian S-400 air defense systems was a decided deal, reports Reuters.
He clarified that the transaction can not be canceled.
Turkish President Tayyip Recep Erdogan also confirmed his country's intention to acquire Russian C-400 anti-aircraft missile systems.

I absolutely agree with Nikita. And people like you Finder, outline these "prospects under enormous pressure", let me remind you since the 60s of the 20th century and more than one generation of our citizens paid for these prospects with a beggarly existence and fear, and we will build VSK together cheerfully and cheerfully. when we understand that we are supported and helped, and not stolen and licensed!

You yourself then served as an "expert", most likely cut off and blather on the Web

Nikita, where were you in 1991? Then people like you ruined the prospects for achieving your own ideal of the country's prestige. Don't you remember, no? Ruined to the ground, along with the foundation. Now, when these prospects again begin to emerge under gigantic pressure from outside, you and people like you again crawl out into the world with the goal of once again ruining what others have created. Who will build? Do you have an answer to this question? Navalny? Or maybe Sobchak? Who are the people who will build "the welfare of citizens, low corruption, good pensions and developed social institutions"? Hey, are there such? It is always easier to destroy than to build, and it is always easier to criticize than to actually do something. Good luck to you!

You think we have an army. On paper, yes, soldiers and officers are the best, yes. But technology is not modern and can not be, because with the hands and ideas of Putin, the entire industry is completely destroyed. What kind of army can we talk about, if everything is plundered, ditched and this process only accelerates. Putin is currently finishing off the army, which Hitler failed. And you don’t need to write such nonsense, if you don’t have reliable information, we don’t have an army now, and the one that is, is only capable of teaching, and in the case of a big mess, it will last for exactly three days, and thousands of people will not be able to mobilize. Here it is true.

And the king is real! - a collapsed high school, collapsed medicine (free is not effective, paid is not affordable), pension benefits are one laugh (who among those present can live up to 65 and work, or lend to one pension), about real inflation, lack of rights workers, and high taxes (worse than in Germany) can not speak, to list next?
All the achievements of President Putin occurred when golden rain hit the country in the form of expensive oil.
Then everything is very modest, if not disgusting to say ..
I personally do not care about the prestige of the country, in the form in which our government understands it. For me, the prestige of my country is the well-being of citizens, low corruption, good retirement benefits, developed social institutions.

I support you on all 100% !!! Many Russians have a very short memory. Quickly forgot how shit lived. And in what short time Russia thanks to Putin got out of it. Now the whole world is against us, but Russia again thanks to him keeps afloat. Only too many whiners are ready to please the pendos to sink the boat in which they float, eat and live. In Syria, Ukraine, Libya, too, shouted let's revolution. Well ......

What kind of website avi about all the time I read well all the weapons in Russia are bad, provocateurs from Hochland. I would now be the district of Putin in power, and the other king and I think that soon it will be so. So rejoice Banderlog provocateurs come as Ivan the terrible we will deal with the traitors of their homeland.

Totally agree

I went to the field of Vova, with my demogogy ,, do you think someone will read your brown post and give you a bagel?)) The defender was found ,,,

Well, if this is the case - now we’ll just be sure to live)) And then they took, you know, the loan is free.

Bullshit is full, in Germany taxes are slightly higher than ours. If a friend is not satisfied with the leadership of the country-vzashei? No yourself go, and the guide to the Kolyma. The army was saved by the people, your brain is in the ass, apparently. Stop zomboyaschik stare

So work 5 extra years. Enjoy

These are your conjectures, nobody was going anywhere

And how he can answer for himself, he can only choke with the bile of a liberated woman!

And you jump, and do not stop jumping. You have already finished a lot, but continue to jump all the same. Who does not jump that one not svidomo (maydanuty)!

Lyonka, it’s your Liberas Democrats' point to burst, when the people will chase you with a filthy broom, even though there’s something to burst, it’s already torn to shreds

It was not difficult to pull out with such oil. And your colleague has the right to live in his country with his opinion.

What do we need from this? Russia is the first in the world in terms of grain, one of the first in oil and gas, and meanwhile ... we are increasing VAT, we are raising the retirement age, and so on. Capitalism turns the state apparatus into a conductor of its interests. Down with capitalism!

Yurik, who would not buy, if there are such, anyway, you will not break off anything from this!

open your pocket wider, Yurik! Soon you will become "Aligarham"!

Leonid, you will not live to see it, predictor of lime

And do not dream, Turkey has already bought them

Putin, by the way, pulled the army out of the mud and raised what it was to eat, what to buy, where your Western democrats were with America when we flipped Georgia, why they didn’t stand up, play a point, and where they are in Syria. Life may not be sugar, you in Germany were you at least imagine what kind of taxes there are, there is an account for each one there and if you spend more
than you get right there tax grab. Would you even have asked for the sake of curiosity as it is cool.
We also have one at work, he is not satisfied with Putin, the government, his bosses, work, television, prices, taxes, pensions, idiots, and so on. I ask him why the hell he lives in Russia in general, because in the West it’s better to let him go there now let out freely if you want, no, he doesn’t go there because there is a gundet, and there’s no Gundi and no one’s .

So liberals write, mainly from abroad. It is there that they try to dig in and make money on writings.

Turks will not buy, Saudis, Indians, Chinese will buy. More to list? Because it is the best air defense system in the world. I like how our liberasts stink, not the power to do anything about it. Stink on.

and India refused! Indonesia about SU-57: the planes went to hell and also refused. And they are still not in sight ... except for three!

If only the liberast didn’t have anything to burst when the people would come out on Red Square and their legs did not refuse to reach the border

Son, have you ever received an adult ball for a ball, or only in nete?

Leonid liberal ghouls for you: Russian arms supplies 3a 2017g-15bn $. for 2018 around 18-20 billion $ / Total: 2 place in the world, the first in the United States. And how much money comes for those. No service information is available.

Leonid, I realized that you are a dummy in and of you. For the people do not answer, answer for sowing

Best of all, the Petriots showed themselves in an epony, when they did not shoot down North Korean missiles. Why not become? As the American general said, there was a chance that they would not be able to intercept, and so as not to disgrace ... Yes, keep the Turks Kurds

So right, the king Pukin only wow # lovo, dummies it all and show off. Russia has one weapon - the people, but you cannot buy it. Oh, like a Pukin's point, it will pop when the people finally arm themselves and enter Red Square.

Turks nai * ali, as always.

I think it's all crap. will buy.

So you do not say. You have more than a dozen years to jump while jump.

Advance prepay by Turkey C-400 is a good salary for Russia. :))

Alexander: The Turkish news agency Anadolu, citing a source in the Turkish government, published an article .... are you reading?

If Russia has at least something good? If you read this resource, then nothing! I wonder how much Pindos pay this afftaram?

And so Katsap screamed! Truly say: Do not say hop until you jump over!

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