Who will voice the word for the Mi-28 and Mi-24 pilots?
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Who will voice the word for the Mi-28 and Mi-24 pilots?

Who will voice the word for the Mi-28 and Mi-24 pilots?


The New Year's Eve is always a holiday, beautiful and one of the most long-awaited, our people meet it in high spirits. To my great regret, not always and not at all it comes true, as this time in the pilots of the base of Khmeimim in Syria, when 31 December they immediately fell on two griefs:

1. Accident of helicopter Mi-24 for technical malfunction with the death of pilots, the technician was alive, but his legs were broken.

2. On December 31, 2017, the militants fired at the base with mortars and also “... the death of two helicopter pilots” (RIA Novosti).



On the shelling of the base in the media - there are a lot of articles to this day, and in various details, with assumptions to prevent such a continuation. For example, I found several such articles on one page at a time: "According to Khmeimim: who, what, and why shoots at the airbase. Russia in Syria "; "The bombardment of Khmeimim revealed gaps in the" second ring "of defense"; "Syria: bombarding the air base of Khmeimim and reaction to it"; "What kind of weapon could be attacked by the base of Khemeymim?"; "The Russian airbase in Syria was fired upon by a" stunted "Islamist grouping" (Military Review *).

And our President: "Putin about the two dead in Syria:" terrorists will STRONGLY regret it ... "(08.01.2018 Yandex., Zen).

There is no doubt that the President will take tough measures against these militants and will beat them to any hunt to attack the base of Khmeimim. In this regard, I have a question:

"Why does he also not react strongly to the protection of the same pilots, so that they will not perish in the falling helicopters because of their poor design quality (Mi-28N) or old age (Mi-24)?

Mi-28N began to fall immediately after they entered our Air Force. Since 2009, according to open sources, there have been six "hard landings", which resulted in the death of four combat pilots. Now another tragedy is bigger (Mi-24) and they have lost two more combat pilots, but the most offensive thing is to put in for them: "They will STRONGLY regret it": TO SOMEONE!

Of the above helicopter crashes, only a couple of helicopters were to be restored, the rest were beyond repair. Putting Mi-28H into service, it was argued as an excuse that it is much cheaper than the Ka-50, and we are the poor? Today, its value has become equal to the Ka-52 and, to the delight of the enemies, with its “hard landings” it slowly but surely impoverishes the state budget itself. Maybe really commissioned by the United States?        

The blow of the Russian "Crocodile": spectacular shots from the cabin


The cost of it with the Kamov helicopters equalized, but the maneuverability and reliability of the "Black Sharks" for Mi-28N are unavailable and the pilots of these helicopters can only dream about it. The ex-serviceman once provided them a medical service. Minister of Defense S.Ivanov.

You are amazed when, with outstanding Ka-50 / 52s, heroes-pilots are forced to carry out combat missions on dead Mi-28N and Mi-24, and the President has more than once set the task of equipping our Armed Forces with the latest advanced weapons, and everyone has long known that from combat helicopters at the present time in the whole world there is no equal to the Ka-50 "Black Shark" and Ka-52 "Alligator" helicopters. It should be noted that the Mi-28NM, which replaces the Mi-28N, is the same Mi-28N, only with modified gearboxes, which will remove the power limitations from the engines, but with all the other inherent backwardness in maneuverability, weapons and flight safety ... Moreover, flight safety here must be considered not only from the point of view of the presence of ejection seats in Kamov's vehicles, but to an even greater extent: the lack of very dangerous tail rotor engines in Kamov's vehicles.

It's no secret that the US Army is preparing to switch to high-speed coaxial helicopters and for this they already really experience a combat helicopter S-97



But the Kremlin government does everything it can to prevent the creation of high-speed helicopters for our helicopter pilots. BUT, say, for the designers of the cost center, high-speed helicopters: "Not according to Senka - a hat", they are just starting to launch into the Mi-38 series, a helicopter from the first half of the 80s of the last century, which in Soviet times would have been decommissioned in terms of seniority, but they had a high-speed version as a project - a phantom named "Mi-X1", which was promised a maximum speed of 520k / h. Only people with a headache can promise a single-rotor helicopter such a speed, because according to the theory of flight, a single-rotor helicopter, after a speed of 400 k / h, turns upside down with a subsequent meeting with the earth's surface, which is well known in the KB MVZ.



But the generals of this design bureau are kind of like a caste of untouchables, and from them everything is like water off a duck's back; They are allowed to do anything, therefore, instead of the famous "Black Shark", the series is launched three times in a row, which lost to him competitions, and even the unfinished Mi-28N. The pilots who have operated these helicopters since 2011 are paying for this injustice with their lives, and the State with finances and reduced defensive capabilities. However, ex. VKS Commander-in-Chief V. Bondarev is not worried about this state of affairs with the Mi-28N, and he continues to promote it to this day: "This is a wonderful helicopter that pilots appreciate and treat it with great respect" (More on TASS December 4, 2017). He himself never piloted helicopters, so he blindly repeats after the designers of the cost center, giving this bummer a false characterization instead of a real one. For example, when the second batch of Mi-28Ns was sent to Budennovsk, the pilots categorically refused them (reality) and this batch of helicopters was redirected to Torzhok. It is on them that the aerobatic team "Berkuts" flies, and it is from this party that during demonstration performances at the Dubrovichi training ground, Ryazan region. in August 2015, another Mi-28N fell and killed the leader of the aerobatic team, Colonel Igor Butenko.



But after the very first disaster in Budennovsk about this helicopter: "As the deputy head of the flight test center, honored test pilot, Hero of Russia, Colonel Igor Malikov explained to the newspaper VZGLYAD, chips get into the gearbox NOT RARE ..." (Airport. Published: 15.02.2011).

It would seem that after such an objective description of an authoritative test pilot, the Air Force Commander-in-Chief had to stop the flights on these helicopters and launch the Ka-50, which has long proved its superiority in all respects, especially since these helicopters are highly praised by army pilots.



Colonel Aleksandr Vitalievich Rudykh, head of the BUG (Combat Strike Group), who took part in the Chechen war:

"The wind restriction even on the plain still remains, as are the features of the operation of single-screw machines in mountain conditions. From the majority of these restrictions, coaxial machines are eliminated, since they have no problems with the destruction of the steering wheel and even the tail boom. The 'Black Shark', which has no analogues in the world, has unique characteristics for mountain conditions.

For a helicopter with a coaxial circuit, it does not matter from which side the wind blows during takeoff or approach. With full combat load, the 'Black Shark' hangs at an altitude of 4.000 meters. How effective are the combat missions on this machine, we have convincingly shown in Chechnya.

Early in the morning we were 'cut', as a rule, by the opposite slopes of the mountains, where artillery could not work, and we systematically 'cleaned out' the square behind the square. All the flights carried out video shooting of the mission and combat results. We collected extensive material and confirmed it with documents.

The technique (Ka-50) proved to be the best. Most of all I personally liked the digital map of the area installed on the Kamovian car. It allows to use the electronic map, executed in the form of an ordinary flight card with maximum efficiency. The pilot can fly in flight to any convenient and necessary scale for him; At the same time, a mark is displayed on the monitor indicating the place of the helicopter. The designations without the use of the GLONAS system with an accuracy of + 50 meters allow for a landing approach in difficult weather conditions.

Crews from the combat units did not know the capabilities of Ka-50, as well as the features of piloting coaxial vehicles, and that's why, after the first combat sortie, they gave an emotional but precise assessment: "It's not a flight, it's some kind of fantasy. It's not clear who covers whom. " After that, R. Sakhabutdinov announced the impossibility of accomplishing the task of protecting his crews. That is why the "crocodiles" accompanying the "Black sharks" were piloted by the pilots of the BUG. To assess the actions of Ka-50 in the interests of scientific work, I had to take a job in Mi-24.

When I reported to Colonel-General V. Baranov the order to return to the base, he summoned the chief of aviation of the UGA (s), then the colonel, Rifa Sakhabutdinov and asked:

   “Can you continue this work and clean out the spirits,” just like the Kamovo machines?

   - Not. Mi-24 cannot perform such tasks.

   “So why are they flying away?” Why don't you leave them?


General Baranov did not receive an intelligible answer, especially since, at the request of the UGV (s) command, we were detained in the combat zone for an additional month. BUG returned home, having completed all the tasks assigned to it. (Word about "Black Shark": June 20, 2006 YURI ZARETSKY, Red Star).


The work of the Ka-52 Alligator helicopter in Syria


Vitalii Belyaev specifically for Avia.pro

what kind of clever wrote it? by the nature of the service I serve MI-28 all that is written about MI-28 contrived nonsense in Syria the sides were flying like fucking brooms with a minimum of failures the technician never failed with a similar electronics on the KA-52 bounce was much more. all helicopters with their own merits and demerits. On MI-28 of the last series, practically eliminated from childhood diseases-current angular gears, constantly rejecting electronics due to dampness. Lost 2 boards in Syria are not technically faulty. If you do not know how in fact what for pishish?

Dear Ivan! If you really served Mi-28, then the "angular" reducer would be called by its name. All the Mi helicopters have three reducers: the main; in between and tail!
And the article is written on the facts, and not on "nonsense".

on mi-28 5 gearboxes main, intermediate, tail, 2 angular transmitting torque under 45 degrees to the main reducer. as it is. And the article is written not according to the facts of someone somewhere where something is heard no more. The real causes of catastrophe mi-28 in our circles for a long time are known, the conclusions are made, where the technique has let down and where it is themselves to blame.

on the Mi-28 engines are spaced. Transmission of torque under 90 degrees. Therefore, angular gears.

For some reason, the anonymous author did not mention the two catastrophes of the ka-50 on tests and about the crashes in the horde and the base in Zhulebino, these are the four dead.
And not one of them did not dare to take advantage of the vaunted catapult.
During the research at the Institute of Aviation and Space Medicine of the Russian Defense Ministry, it was proved that it was impossible to pilot and simultaneously use the means of destruction by one pilot.
By the way, in the Ryazan region, when the Mi-28 fell from a height of 200 meters, both pilots were still alive, and the pilot died leaving the car from the impact of the blade, which indicates the immense survivability of the car.
The reference to the ore is not correct, as we all know whose pilot it is.

I apologize, forgot to comment on the phrase: "While conducting research in the Institute of Aviation and Space Medicine of the Defense Ministry, it was proved that it is impossible to pilot and simultaneously use means of destruction by one pilot."
Michael, this is your invention, and not some research. Your aerodrome test pilot Karapetyan on TV says that these "studies" were conducted by the Americans, and you already have "at the Institute of Aviation and Space Medicine of the Russian Defense Ministry." There were no such studies in the indicated scientific institution, nor in the USA!
And further. Army pilots after the tests determine: what helicopter suits them, and what does not, but not the designers of the MVZ along with the corrupters from MO, who in the flights of combat helicopters in the war - "no ear, no snout"!
And the army pilots in the Chechen war with their work proved that Ka-50 is incomparably more effective than your junk from the Stone Age!

You, Vitali, whose will be, what about Ka-50 in Chechnya you sing? Your article - zakazniak the purest water. I was personally present in that division in the Czech Republic, when seconded Ka-50 were engaged in advertising photography in the interests and on the grandmother of OKB Kamov. Filmets is a complete profanity for a wide audience. And the honor of Mr. Rudykh, as a man, it did not add. In addition to the above pilot, there was a lot of titled people from Torzhok, but their opinions about this helicopter in the film we did not hear - maybe it differs from the sponsor? Vitaly, do not write articles about the military operations of helicopters - they are, as it were softer ... in combat pilots, AA causes attacks of uncontrollable fun. Money, horse, do not smell ... But not to the same extent!

I recognize the designer of the cost center under the nickname Sergey Semenov.
To someone, and you know best that all the catastrophes of Ka-50, unlike Mi-28H, were caused by the pilots. In Torzhok in particular, the helicopter worked to the ground and worked very obediently, but the commander "blood from the nose" needed a landing and he "produced" it. And where does the catapult go? This is in the first place, and secondly, when testing catastrophes are possible, which you again know better than mine. And thirdly: since when did my name and surname become "anonymous"?
Yes, A.Rudykh. This is not your pocket pilot, but an army test pilot who flew to Mi and Ka, so he does not know the difference in the capabilities of Ka-50 and Mi-28N helicopters.

Yes, after that "famous" film by A. Rudykh, he became famous as a pocket pilot of the Kamov Design Bureau. Why is that so? Just one pilot and stood up for the spacecraft? And why are the others silent? A. Egorov, for example, who flew from Rudykh on the second Ka-shka? Well, Vorobyev will not tell anyone anything ... You, my friend, are confused in concepts: you compare a sword with a butcher's ax. Only, I dare say, in hand-to-hand combat (when there is less than 30 meters between the sides) your sword is about nothing: you need an ax. Unlike the MI-50, the Ka-24 will not go head-on to the line of fire from the enemy's small arms, unlike MI-50 (well, if you only plant the heroic Sakha, the pilots of the North Caucasus Military District will understand who I am about), because in the midsection it will be demolished like a fly with a fly swatter from a simple PKK ... In addition, the risk of propellers hitting their fragments in such a battle is fatal for the KA-50. Anticipating your answer about the fragments that the KA-50 crew ran into with propellers, I will say as an eyewitness - it was very lucky then in the Chechen Republic that they did not whip. There was no fire impact - there was a desire to make a spectacular movie. And do not talk nonsense about the combat work of the KA-2000 in the Chechen Republic in the winter of XNUMX and do not mislead the general public. Otherwise, I will put a bottle of white in front of me and start with feeling, sensibly, with an arrangement, with names and surnames, to cut the whole truth about this BUG and his war with the Basmachi on Kamov's money. Do not lead into sin!

Not a pilot and not a helicopter pilot, but he was always very interested in the topic of combat aviation. The subject of the problematic Mi-28 gearbox has been raised more than once, it is not secret or suddenly appeared, very roughly speaking - it is a birth trauma of Mi-28, without fixing which to send on these machines in flight pilots - a crime, IMHO. However, the pink-cheeked ministers do not think so. Not bad Mi-28, yes. But not with such fatal flaw. How much can you lobby the interests of the OKB who does not take care of the most important thing? The combat pilot has little to learn, his potential is growing with every flight, it can not be digitized and / or given to young pilots. Therefore, the loss of each pilot is a serious loss of combat capability of VCS.

When all the children of "rosy-cheeked ministers" are given the "honorable right and sacred duty" to fly on board the "turntable" for several months, then something may change. Otherwise they consider money as their own, and life as strangers.