The flap could well have been torn out as a result of the detonation of the warhead of MANPADS, so once again to the question of control of the territory adjacent to the airfield in the area of ​​the glide path .... It is difficult to come up with another reasonable-sounding version of the "loss" of the flap ...

Old veterans have become old! On An-24 such engines never stood. The closest relative is An-32 (roughly it is An-26 with engines Ai-20 http: //aviarus.rf/aviamuseum/aviatsiya/sssr/transportno-passazhirskie-samolety/1945-g-1991-g/samolety-okb -antonova / mnogotselevoj-transportnyj-samolet-an-32 /
Landing flaps - 38, not 40. I hold in my hands the Instructions to the crew of the An-24t aircraft, page 294. Quote: Failure of one engine in a climb, in cruise flight, or in an approach with immediate feathering of the propeller of a failed engine does not cause difficulties in piloting the aircraft. The maximum effort on the controls to keep the aircraft from roll and turn is within acceptable limits and can be removed with trim tabs. Landing with a feathered propeller of a failed engine is also not difficult. Cases of flight with a failed engine and an autorotating propeller are unlikely, since the engine failure would coincide with the failure of the automatic and all compulsory feathering systems ... A missed approach with one engine is possible from a height of 50m ... If the decision to land adopted in a timely manner, with the autorotating propeller of the failed engine, it is possible to perform the calculation and the landing approach and the landing itself. End of quote. And you say, it will tip over, the rudders and the height will not be enough. "I think it's time for you to freshen up!" (The Diamond Arm, Mosfilm, 1968)

On the An-24,26 and An-12 the same engines ?! Even the radio operator from the communications battalion will distinguish them.

Which video? Give me the link! Not to be confused with the video of the disaster in Balashov in 2016.

Guys, there is such a swearing from technical specialists, but I still do not understand: was there an external influence, there was a technical failure, was there a crew error, or "the plane fell because it is heavier than air"?

self-confidence is to blame the pilot flew more than 3000 hours lost fear, went in "Afghan" about # @ # @ glide path, no go around, no! I'm an ace! a sharp roll clings the wing of the BPRM, TOTAL OVER 30 CORPSES officially about this no one say, it's like when you hit a lot in a car and consider yourself a Schumacher, such people mostly fight.

At the An-26 engines Ai-24WT. On them, the felting on negative thrust is turned off (your case will not work) on An-24 (AI-24) this system works.

Puppy, pass-through latch on it and need it so that below the SGP did not install the RUD. On the 0 mode, no one flies. The Ai-24 engine flaps a maximum of 38 degrees.

How do you know how it was in Afghanistan? Probably 5 years there swelled?

You still get into the flap in the air ... Did you shoot yourself from the machine gun?

.. So here from 92 people had no right to fly 55 people ... Che for delirium? Who forbade them? Otherworldly forces?

An-24,26 flaps take off 15 grad, landing 38 degrees

Maybe this is the action of the American "partners". We "turned off" Donald Cook for them, now in Syria they are trying to show what they are capable of and scare

The AI-20 engines are installed on An-12, IL-18, and on An-24, An-26-AI-24

4 km-200 meters, 1 km-60 meters, this is not "parachuting", but an ideal descent along a standard glide path with an inclination of this glide path 2 ° 30 '

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I advise you to understand the near drive is always at a distance from the end-1 km ..... Far 4 km. So here's the near pass at an altitude of 60 meters (in the glide path) and this is in KILOMETER from TORTSA.

What do you mean, "55 people did not have the right to fly" from the Alexandrov Ensemble?

And what about the preflight preparation I do not believe that it was not done and before the take-off, they will try the flaps for release and cleaning

Everything would be fine. But!!! At a distance of 500 meters from the end of the strip, the height is not "several hundred meters", but only 30-35. And mechanization is produced again not 500 meters before the strip. And according to this, the version about the torn off flap is stuffing and bullshit.

"Was there a boy?"

It is a pity that all who died, but when it will be known about the crash of the aircraft and when we stop flying on this junk?

Flown b / m TU134.In 80e at the approach to landing in a / p Tbilisi on TU154 tore off the inside section of the flap. Seli.KVS awarded with a car

last year, too, was a catastrophe .. chorus alexandrov .. so here from 92 people had no right to fly 55 man and when that was a catastrophe too with a military transport Batumi-Chkalovsky there from 83 people 56 had no right to fly. And under Ramenskoye 11.2.2018g- the human factor is not disclosed to no complete information. But on the calculation of the death corridor, it says about 2 other reasons-1-2 diversion had no right to fly on that day the plane. And in the plane crash Khatanga-Moscow on board was 27 the aircraft IL-18 did not have the right to fly from the 1998y year of the crash was 19 Nov 2001.

Hello everyone! I'm Veteran Azroflot. The calendar experience is 49 years. I flew to An-24 too. The engines of the Ai-20 sometimes had such a tendency that if the throttle was energetically transferred from 0gr through the pass-through latch to the mode, then the engine could spontaneously flap. With the flaps released at 40 degrees and working on the second engine mode, it leads to a rollover of the aircraft in the direction of the failed engine. Steers are not ENOUGH! And also heights to correct the emergency situation.

RPG 7 and TL not pnmit

Listen to lies and choose lies! Minobor.ne will tell the truth.
There is a video of entry and fall. No "peak"! Flies without roll!
The engines do not smoke, the faults are not flown. The flight mode is similar to parachuting. (Standard) -Delete 4km-pushed out 200m; delete-1km-height60m.Sypalsya he (did not dive cool), ie, he was parachuting as if there was no crew, no evolutions. Here and think when you listen MinEbr

Well, who's his flap? fired, hit the flap.

No, why amerikosov, for them gut thin. Already a couple of hundred air strikes were fired upon civilians. Hundreds of women's children were killed, hundreds wounded, so that we take revenge on Madame, calm down.

This is MANPADS, do not go to the fortuneteller. AN would shoot "heat traps", nothing happened. In Afghanistan, it was the same more than once. The shooter got to the base as close as possible, in advance, camouflaged himself well and waited for the time to sniff. The airfield security has screwed up and, of course, our Russian "maybe". And people are very sorry.

Quite right, Alexander! And not only "... just outside the runway ...", but in some places and right inside.

I think that you are right.

Than knocked?

Ivan, I think that the specialists will understand. Do not interfere all in one heap, do your work and do not go into other people's affairs, in which you understand little, do not try to give false fictions and judgments for the truth, including about sloppiness.

You need to dunk amerikosov mirror!

After the elections we find out

And the truth will never be known, as about many other drops of aircraft ...

Not special support aircraft, but to shoot down, but I think, in this case, about sabotage. And at the heart of all kinds of sabotage and malfunctioning is slovenliness!

I do not presume to judge the circumstances of the catastrophe, although I flew by the commander on An-26. I would not lose sight of the wind shear. And then, what are several hundred meters at a distance of 500 meters? 40-60 meters they had with the standard approach.

All my life I was taught to keep the arm on the lever when releasing. And if something is not right, let's say, not a synchronized issue, stop everything (not even clean up, and plant, if the steering wheel is not enough, - slide cover). Some types of la have a non-synchronous lock. If there was a flap, then yes .. to think about cleaning is difficult, and will poke to the ground ..

Former aircraft mechanic. There was a case when during the preflight training a crack was found in the eyelet of the flap fastening. The result at takeoff or landing could be the same.

From the article it follows that "we do not know why, but precisely for a technical reason" a catastrophe occurred. I was planted at night with a failed An-24 engine. There is practically no difference with the An-26. When landing on the runway, proportion the wheel against the lantern. The crew even taxied themselves to the platform, where the height was no more than 200 meters. There were no more than 20 seconds left before touching the runway. Anyone familiar with arithmetic can get these numbers, having data about 500 meters to the runway and landing speed. There are limitations in vertical speed. There could have been a "hard" landing, but there certainly would not have been such a number of victims. There is a radio communication between the crew and the dispatcher and inform about those. malfunction time was.
My conclusion: shot down!

If they were shot down (as many here are sure), and if (as the eyewitnesses say) it fell quickly and suddenly, then, given the distance to the strip (500m), immediately outside the runway begins the territory controlled by the enemy.

The conclusion is that the flap could be repelled by a machine gun burst.

Do you need to believe in the version of terrorists who allegedly made their way to the airport, and where they shot the plane, and then safely disappeared?

If the flap was pulled out, this again and again proves the guilt of the crew. Most likely they made a call on the Afghan, while the flaps were in the landing position 35 degrees, while exceeding the maximum permissible approach speed. The flap simply deformed with the flow of air.

Fake reset. An attempt to hide that the plane was shot down.

It is quite probable cause of the disaster. I had a case when the same type of aircraft was serviced at the periodical maintenance department, a break of one knot of the weights of the root section of the flap of the right wing was revealed.

Well, it was shot down, it's clear to everyone.

Yes, enough noodles to hang on your ears! Just the Mujahideen shot down planes in Afghanistan. At this height and one bullet sniper in the pilot is enough.

If the flap was riddled with bullets, then it could fly off