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In the article “A new helicopter - a way out of losses” (23.12.19/22/XNUMX), I wrote that for Arctic flights it makes sense to restore the Ka-XNUMX rotorcraft and the “sensitive” liberals did not take long to answer.

The article is called: “Chronicles of a Registered Senior Citizen. Project “X”, or the Soviet Ka-22 rotorcraft ... ”(January 28.01, 2020).

Project "X" in which N.I. Kamov was a co-author.

“In the mid-50s, the OKB made a revolutionary decision to build, according to the tactical and technical requirements set by the Ministry of Defense, an experimental Ka-22 rotorcraft with two main rotors at the ends of the wing consoles and two pulling screws. It was a new type of aircraft for domestic aviation, combining the advantages of a helicopter capable of performing vertical take-off and landing, and an aircraft that has a large payload, range and flight speed compared to a helicopter. ” (Soviet rotorcraft Ka-22 | IA “Arms of Russia”).

Rotorcraft Ka-22, a project which was completed by N.I. Kamov.

As we see, “Project X” is not “or the Soviet Ka-22 rotorcraft”!

"Bullshit" (proverb)

The author of the chronicle writes:

“During the Ka-22 test flights, it turned out that this aircraft by piloting technique is not like any of the existing aircraft and helicopters and is also very difficult to control.”

And here is the assessment of the test pilot:

“... and Garnayev wrote in a flight assessment:“ The Ka-22 rotorcraft is an aircraft that successfully combines the qualities of an airplane and a helicopter. It is quite well controlled in all modes from hovering to maximum speed, as well as at altitudes to the practical ceiling ”  ("Military Review")

Chronicle author:

"Project" X "(Ka-22) is probably one of the most unsuccessful aviation experiments."

So, M.L. Miles are not his authority:

“In 1962, Nikolai Ilyich defended his doctoral dissertation on the totality of the work performed, and M. L. Mile said that he deserved this degree“ for one rotorcraft ”. But all this was later, after 10 years. " (Kamov Ka-22

In the article “Soviet multi-purpose helicopter Mi-6. He is ... "second of chronicle writes:

“Unlike the Mi-6, the Ka-22 was built in a transverse pattern with two rotors of relatively small diameter, which, as it turned out later, turned out to be economically impractical.”

And is it really so and specify arithmetically:

the Ka-22 and Mi-6 had the same D-25V engines and the tasks they performed were the same. Max. their take-off weight was also the same = 42,5 tons, but the Ka-22 was one and a half tons lighter than the Mi-6 helicopter. The average load of the Mi-6 = 8t. If the rotorcraft in the series, then its average load would be 9,5 tons.

We go further: the speed of the Mi-6 with trapezoidal blades = 200 km / h, and the Ka-22 with blades of the same shape, respectively = 270 km / h.

Those. in %% the payload of the Mi-6 from the Ka-22 was 84,2%, and the speed -74%, or in total, the PRODUCTIVITY of the Mi-6 was 22% lower than the Ka-42 rotorcraft. ARITHMETIC!!!

About the disasters Ka-22 asecond of chronicle: “At the end of August 1962, during the distillation of the Ka-22 rotorcraft from Tashkent to Moscow when landing at an intermediate aerodrome due to a cable break in the control system, the instance number 01-10 turned upside down in the air and collided with the ground. A crew of 7 people died. ”


“It was not possible to establish the exact cause of the disaster for the state commission, but it seemed that the management had failed. Kamov made the control tough, replacing the cables with rods. The tests continued. Exactly two years later - September 5, 1964 - again a disaster, very similar to the first. It was not possible to prove to the authorities that the rotorcraft is a promising, necessary machine with unique qualities ” (

My conclusion: both disasters are sabotage! KB pilots in test flights on rotorcraft flew both with overloads and with extreme speed: nothing was torn, not disconnected, not torn off! And in simple flights, the same cause of disasters, despite the fact that by the second flight the control of the rotors was thoroughly modified, and the cable rods were replaced with rigid ones. Moreover: “According to the navigator’s logbook, the Ka-22M 01-01 rotorcraft took off at 3 hours 57 minutes, but soon returned due to a malfunction (oil leak from under the tightly closed oil tank plug of the left gearbox) and landed at 4 hours 10 minutes . At 4 hours 55 minutes, a second take-off took place and an hour later, landing in Turkestan. There was already a rotorcraft 01-03 Garnayev, who had smoke before landing in the cockpit. During the inspection, the nut of the left support of the synchronization shaft was loosened. Inspected and refueled the car 01-01. According to the explanation of the mechanic Yu. T. Denisov, the backlash of the slot-joint of the left swashplate was discovered and eliminated here. ”

At that time Aeroflot maintenance of working helicopters was much better than these unique rotorcraft and every motorist knows that when the oil flows out of the crankcase, the engine wedges! In one rotorcraft, the oil tank cap was loosely closed; at the second “loosening the nut of the left support of the synchronization shaft” and smoke appeared in the cab. There is a frank wrecking in the service of experienced rotorcraft! But since they were piloted by test pilots, an emergency in the air due to oil starvation at the sides was prevented, and then after landing, the defect checked in the first crash is introduced into the control of the rotorcraft.

And here is how the Mi-6 “winner” was commissioned:

“You are amazed! The leadership of the country actually forced the Air Force to master the "raw" machine. How can you do without emergency situations.

On July 25, the “raw” machine was put into serial production at the Rostov Aviation Plant No. 168 by a government decree ... There were plenty of defects in the helicopter. The first design phase of joint tests with the customer, which ended at the end of 1959, showed that the flight characteristics of the Mi-6 did not meet the specified ones. The rotorcraft "missed" speed, range, and flight altitude. " (

"How dare you, insolent, with an unclean snout

Here, pure, stir up my drink ”(I. Krylov).

Single-rotor helicopters fly all over the world, and in Russia N.I. Kamov introduces a more advanced and cost-effective rotorcraft into operation: Russia is not allowed to have outstanding aircraft !!!

For the same reason, since the beginning of the 2000s. the more productive and safer coaxial helicopter Ka-32-10 / 11 in comparison with the Mi-8 is not funded for serial production, not to mention the outstanding projects of the Ka-92 and Ka-102 high-speed helicopters, and even more so about the promising combat helicopter from the Design Bureau " Kamov "with a flight speed of more than 600 k / h. It can only be assumed that these promising projects can be released from the brakes only after the launch of the American helicopters into the series, which are currently being tested. And even then - not all! Remember how at the beginning of V.V. A real fifth-generation fighter MiG-1.44 was removed from Putin's tests, and to replace M. Pogosyan, he began to develop the Su-57 PAK FA, outwardly - a copy of the American F-22 Raptor. PAK FA stands for "front-line aviation complex", i.e. he must be a jack of all trades, and not least as a fighter-interceptor. Here is the first doubt!

"MiG-1.44. The first thing you should immediately pay attention to is speed. MiG 1.44 flew in afterburner mode at supersound, and at high altitude it could reach a speed of 3150 km / h (Mach 2,6). In fact, 1.44 became deep processing of the MiG 25 and 31, which added the capabilities of a front-line fighter and turned out to be a very interesting model that could easily compete with the American F-22, and high speed should give it a serious advantage.This speed was provided to the aircraft by two engines AL-41F turbofan, created by NPO Saturn All of it the characteristics were confirmed at the MiG-25 flying laboratory, so all the data was taken for a reason, but on the basis of really confirmed data " (tehnorussia. Science and technology of Russia 25.12.2016/XNUMX/XNUMX).

Compare in speed: MiG-1.44 with Vmax. = 3150k / h. and Su-57 with Vmax. = 2600k / h.

Recently, a pair of American F-35 fighters tried to intercept our Tu-160. The pilots of the “White Swan” turned on the afterburner and quietly retreated from the F-35.

The Su-57 also looks like such an awful interceptor in comparison with the MiG-1.44. Would the Tu-160 leave MiG-1.44, whose speed is half the speed of the White Swan?

And today, the liberals have already designed an excuse to discredit our outstanding helicopter designer S.V. Mikheeva, but for a start it’s kind of like by the way: 

Specialists of the Russian design bureau Kamov disinterestedly gave the designers of the American company AVX Soviet technologies, which helped the latter to develop a project for the reconnaissance and attack helicopter Compound Coaxial Helicopter (CCH), writes The Aviationist.

“The Russians flew in coaxial helicopters for many years. Surprisingly, they were very open in their technology. They presented technical papers at various meetings, and one of the issues they explored was the spacing between the screws. They have developed a spacing criterion that works, ”Gaffy quoted Vertical Magazine in a statement made in October 2019 at the annual U.S. Army conference.

The editions note that the engineering solutions that Kamov used in the design of the Ka-50 and Ka-52 helicopters allowed the AVX to reduce the distance between the main lower and upper rotors and reduce the total weight of the aircraft (March 7, 2020 RUSSIARU). ”

Yes, only the "project of the reconnaissance-attack helicopter Compound Coaxial Helicopter (CCH)" of the classical scheme and is similar to the RAH - 66 Comanche ", but not to the Ka-50!

And the Americans performed the small “spacing between the screws” in coaxial helicopters long before the Ka-50/52:

Sikorsky S-69 is an experimental coaxial-type helicopter built by Sikorsky Aero Engineering Corporation in 1972

In 1982, these devices were developed according to the new XH-59B configuration with improved screws, a new power plant and a tail propeller tunnel propeller. In this form, he showed a speed of 488km / h. (Sikorsky S-69 (XH-59)

“Sikorsky S-97 Raider The blades of the S-97“ grow ”from an earlier model, the experimental Sikorsky X2 helicopter, and even from the“ old man ”S-69, presented back in 1972. The new car is a clear example of how technologies flow from one another, and do not arise out of the blue. " (Sikorsky S-97 Raider: And the Revolution of Will Come ”).

And where does the “engineering solution that Kamov used in the construction of the Ka-50 and Ka-52 helicopters?” One thing can be said: if S.V. Mikheev from his Kama secrets on helicopters gave the Americans at least a small fraction, then high-speed US helicopters would have already been mass-produced!

A seemingly innocuous initial lie then develops into moral lynching, as was the case with the world's best Ka-50 “Black Shark” attack helicopter (read PILOT AND HELICOPTER (“Round table” in the newspaper “Tomorrow” 2004-11).

Vitaly Belyaev, especially for

An interesting unit for measuring speed "k / h" ...

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It is necessary to find money for the construction! ..

You don’t have to look for anything. The V-22 Osprey has been flying since the year 89. The Ka-22 and the Bell Boeing Osprey-22, even though the numbers would have changed.

V-22 Osprey
Ha! Half is under repair.

Inappropriate comparison of the weight effectiveness of the Mi-6 and Ka-22 in favor of the latter. The author does not cunningly mention that the number of engines on the Ka-22 is 4pcs. Mi-6 2 pcs. He writes that the payload of the Mi-6 from the Ka-22 was 84,2%, this is a victory, given the fact that the power supply of the Mi-6 was inferior to the Ka-22 by 2 times.

This is in what primer did you read that the Ka-22 already has 2 engines?
As for 84%, is everything very clearly calculated in the article, or can you not count to 100?

Amendment, read: that the Ka-22 already has 4 engines?
Dear Vaska and Petka, you probably confused the Ka-22 rotorcraft with the Mi-12 helicopter, which has exactly 4 engines, but its power ratio is more than double. And the Mi-6 and Ka-22 have the same energy ratio: max. their take-off weight is 42,5 tons