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Russian partners began to massively abandon Su-35 fighters

Algeria and Egypt, following Indonesia, abandoned Russian Su-35 fighters.

Western media report that, following Indonesia, which refused to buy Russian Su-4 generation 35 ++ fighters, countries such as Algeria and Egypt also abandoned these combat aircraft. This has an extremely negative effect on the popularity of Russian combat aircraft and can lead to a sharp reduction in the import potential of such combat aircraft.

According to the information provided, earlier Algeria intended to purchase a large batch of Russian super-maneuverable Su-35 fighters, however, it turned out that the Russian aircraft did not have a radar station with AFAR, and therefore it was decided to refuse to conclude a contract with Russia for the supply of these combat aircraft.

A similar situation happened with Egypt, which was supposed to put into service a batch of at least 24 Su-35 combat aircraft. Here the situation turned out to be somewhat different - during a test battle, the French Rafale fighter was able to suppress the fighter's systems with its on-board electronic warfare system, and therefore the Russian combat aircraft immediately ceased to be of interest to Cairo.

“There are more and more indications that Egypt will never receive Su-35 fighters. Along with this US pressure - which was certainly critical (why Washington should continue to provide $ 3 billion in aid to Cairo (including about $ 1,7 billion in military aid) if the latter buys Russian combat aircraft) - but it is reported that the Egyptians tested the Irbis-E radar (from the Su-35) against the Rafale fighter's electronic warfare system, and the latter easily defeated the former. "- reports the publication "The Aviation Geek Club".

The Russian side has not yet commented on the data that has appeared, however, apparently, over the past few months, foreign states have canceled an order for more than 50 Russian Su-35 fighters. This is extremely damaging to the reputation of the Russian aircraft.

Why sell money from Russia and so it is enough, the West saw our technologies only after the hijacking of the plane.

any AFAR, AN / APG-63 (V) 3 does not have a mechanical drive for turning the canvas in azimuth and elevation, and the field of view (transfer of the electron beam) is only 60 degrees in azimuth. To detect, track and capture air targets in the lateral hemispheres, it is necessary to turn the entire vehicle. Passive HEADLIGHT H035, on the other hand, has a mechanical antenna rotation, due to which the field of view increases to 240 degrees. Mechanical reversal allows avoiding energy losses of the radiation lobe, since the PFAR is deployed to the target with its entire area (brought to the normal according to the “sin / cos” law). At AFAR, the detection range decreases with an increase in the angle relative to the roll of the fighter, and the fighter must approach the target in order to "guide" the target. The Su-35S, unlike the F-15SE, has no such drawback.
The detection range of a target with 1 m2 EPR (“Silent Eagle” with 2 AMRAAM on an external sling) at Irbis-E is 300 km, for AN / APG-63 (V) 3 - 145 km; This is when working within sector +/– 60 degrees. In large corners, the American radar does not see anything, but ours sees from the same range as the American one. At an angle of +/– 120 degrees relative to the roll of the Su-35С, “Irbis-E” sees the target with the EPR 1 м2 at the distance 135 — 145 km. Judge whose "child" is steeper. The throughput (channel) of “Irbis-E” is: for tracking - 30 targets, for capturing - 8 targets. For AN / APG-63 (V) 3: for tracking - 20 targets, for capturing - 6 VTs. Even the on-board computers from Super Hornets do not save, it is not surprising, since the Irbis has 1772 MRP, AN / APG-63 (V) 3 - 1500 MRP. Su-35, carrying on the suspension of the RVV-BD and medium-range RVV-SD long-range missile, has significantly larger intercept lines than the F-15SE (180 versus 300 km, respectively).

Great news, all planes will stay in Russia!

Raphael, on the other hand, has an additional suspension with a loss of combat load. In addition, I vaguely imagine clogging the radar with a phased array, it is necessary to receive a signal from the phased array and simultaneously with the reflection of the signal send a false generated signal with the same key, multiple. In this case, the radar can dull. Ground-based, shipborne electronic warfare does not always cope with this task.
I believe more about the reason to abandon the contract and buy the Su-75.

I don't know where your sources of information come from, but over time I noticed that the truth is somewhere opposite to what you write.

In this regard, I have a question. And does this aircraft also enter the Russian army without a radar station with AFAR? If so, then this is junk and not a modern airplane.

Where did you get such data, did you see it?

Personally, it is more important for me that our aircraft can outperform enemy aircraft, and as for Algeria and Egypt, this is their business. Therefore, if the information is reliable, then it is necessary to work on correcting the situation and, I think, it is a matter of time (or maybe we generally present aircraft with understated characteristics for export).

I would like numbers, and, of course, de, source)

It meant that African countries can reduce the import of our aircraft.

the more planes remain in the country, the better it is for us ... first we need to provide ourselves ... then the rest ... there will be enough money and gas ...

Namely, Mykola. If "In Sriria, the Aerospace Forces lost 5 times more Letaki in 20 years than the Amrikans in 12", then by simple calculations it can be established that the "Amrikans" lost 12 litaka in 0,95 years (0.08 litaka per year), but 0,05 2 litaka (equivalent to one wing) is still in the ranks, fighting international terrorism :)) The losses of these same "Amrikans" in WW400 amounted to 30 thousand people (against XNUMX million people from the Soviet Union). Do you think: "not by number, but by skill"? Not at all. "To betray is not to betray, but to foresee ...", "And I am always for those who win ..." and so on. - it's all about them, the most prestigious (here Mykola does "ku" three times), plus a sense of timing (do all of the above on time). So, Mykola, you will tell the Yemeni rebels about the invincibility of "Amrikan" weapons, they promised not to laugh

The concept of air combat has changed, maneuverability has been replaced by armament and the ability to be the first to see the enemy and hit him. In modern conditions, close combat is a rare phenomenon, rather in ostentatious conditions. In addition, the two-engine SU-35 is "more voracious" than its competitors. Indonesia had another complaint, too frequent model changes, instead of cheaper upgrades to previous aircraft. Maybe it is for these reasons that the SU-57 has not yet entered the troops and the creation of the single-engine SU-75 is proceeding at an accelerated pace.

Zhora, are you crying there, or what? You need to rejoice because of the "technological lag of Russia", the main thing is to believe in it yourself and try to convince your suzerain of this ... Everyone has their own way: we are braces, you - um, "values", the main thing is "watch yourself , be careful, watch yourself "(c) ... Yes, and give a separate" thank you "for the sanctions there, a useful thing, it turns out

While Ukraine was being washed to grow. tv, have forgotten how to give everything.

Not so much refusals will continue, but kickbacks on the part of the French, otherwise they are not competitors. In the development of electronic warfare, Russia is far ahead of you all, and if you wish, not only airplanes, but your mobile phones will stop working. And braces, yes, they help, it has been proven. And keep the show off to yourself, this is probably the best thing that you still have left

No, it has not been and will not be. In Sriria, the VKS lost for
5 years of Letak are 20 times more than the Amrikans for 12.

commentators !!! envy silently !! the bird will still show itself and much earlier than you have time to hide

And why are you doing this, Shurik?

Everyone understands the reasons, pressure from outside

Or maybe there are not enough molecules of freedom in Sushki? And how will it work out with gas? First, do they want to knock down the pricer, and then in the queue for the three-way road?

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can lead to a sharp reduction in the import potential of such combat aircraft
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Maybe all the same for Export? We do not import these planes.

The Su-35 is the best analogue, only on Kisel TV.

Chef, the FSE is gone!

Do you want to lead? Then, for sure, nothing will fly with us, sofa general.

You are so stupid that you don't even understand yourself !! This is me about your words about the Su35

This is a stuffing about suppression by Rafal. Absolute nonsense. They will buy everything, as it was more than once. Break down, knock down the price.

Who is in charge there? all the same "faces" ...

This plane is the best, only in brains processed by rosTV

Refusals will continue - Russia is more and more lagging behind technologically, so the consequences of the sanctions have appeared. The situation will worsen, buyers no longer need an inexpensive one, but outdated weapons that have become unusable, braces and show-offs are not available there.

The reputation of the best airplane now (I would not sell the 35th Sushki to anyone at all) did not suffer in the least. Because Iran immediately intercepted the Indonesian stupidity. There are real battles (with Israelis and Americans) and the Iranians will not regret it at all.

Saw Shura! She is golden!

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