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China: Su-57 fighter became a shame for Russian aircraft industry

China said that the Russian fighter Su-57 became the most shameful in the history of Russian aircraft construction.

The Chinese news agency Sina considers the Russian Su-57 fighter to be the worst Russian aircraft in the entire history of the Russian aircraft industry. This is due primarily not only to India's refusal to cooperate with Russia on the FGFA project (closed Russian-Indian project of a fifth generation fighter - ed.), But also by the fact that for its own needs the Russian defense department acquired only 12 fighters of this models.

"Russia continues to assert that Su-57 is a" super-destroyer ", but it is ready to adopt only 12 aircraft. This indicates that the developed aircraft is not needed even by the Russian VCS, which makes it the worst in the history of Russian aircraft construction ", - says the publication "Sina".

Specialists of the Chinese resource note that India was the only hope for the Russian Su-57, but this country called this aircraft hopeless and decided to abandon cooperation with Russia.

In conclusion, military experts made the assumption that after a thorough modernization, this fighter can really become effective, but to date, no country in the world, including Russia itself, is interested in using it.

The article was sent, the author writes about the ringing but does not know where he is. It is better for the United States to face the Russian Federation, otherwise they simply will not exist.

Valdis Critical,
you forgot to write that the car is made of laths and fiberboard, and its geese and ravens are being dragged.

"... will not vilify his army ..." - the end of the quote.
Let me know what is "revile" and what is "own"?
Can the Minister of Defense be cursed?
And the ensign-manager?
They are OUR !!

Let me know what

The note is doubtful. On the Web, there are conflicting assessments of this aircraft.

How interesting. The Chinese portal said ... And what? LtH su57 not yet declassified. And shit across the expanses of the Internet and I can smear.
I am ashamed to be discussing such a thing.

Let me be curious, comrade "pilot", and how many liters of alcohol are in the cooling system of the Brao instant 23?

Are you a military pilot? and an expert? And on what planes and where did you serve and when? Read here ... so straight through one all the experts are oh ** nnye !!!, And you yourself either did not serve in the Army or stood at the gate! Well, unless the one who served (really served, and did not sweep the paths and painted the grass) will never vilify his army, even if it has any excesses and flaws.

How to buy our antediluvian su35 and buy further. Now we carry out the Chinese order. I tell you this as an aircraft builder

Well, the layout of the "duck" still does not say anything! Grippen, Rafal, Eurofighter ... And they are not alike at all, I'm talking about the Chinese and the 1.44 MiG, take for example the location of the engines. It looks more like an F-22, with the layout Well, in general, what to say about who is copying whom! Look, compare the shuttle and "Buran"! In the F-15, the outlines of the MiG-25 are visible, although the Americans themselves did not even hide what Eagle was doing, focusing on Foxbet.

Does anyone know from you what PAKFA means ???? You have at least one detail invented, developed into production, and in the airplane they are more than 50000. Think in advance.

And what, own (Chinese) engine for J-20 (Xian WS-15) is already tested and accepted for voorkzhenie? Or are they still using the Russian from SU-35?
And nothing in this plane does not remind F-22, SU-57, and, oh my God, the Soviet prototype MiG 1.44 ???

Well experts. 12 pieces of installation lot, this is a completely normal practice, something like this was originally planned. And India should be noted stated that it will not invest in the development, but will consider the possibility of buying a finished aircraft, i.е. it is possible to draw and a return conclusion that them and so all arranged without completions here also have decided to save.

Well, the Chinese have made an excellent fighter J-20, it has proven itself, excellent maneuverability, visibility in 400 times less than the fighter of past generations. In addition, engines with cooled exhaust, cryogenic circulation of liquid hydrogen as on Spirit B-2, in this respect he is not worse Raptor, and maneuverability is amazing!

Nonsense, in India now there are disassemblies who and why decided to abandon the joint development with Russia of a fighter 5-th generation well, and secondly, before the Chinese experts to throw shit on the fan let them do something like this

Yes, I am a pilot, I flew the MiG-23, MiG-29, we already understand aviation technology. The Su-57 is a funny parody of the F-22, half-copy sucked out of the finger, picked out from the nose. 6th generation is already unmanned stealth, robotic guard birds, the Americans already have them, they even take off from the deck, and we screwed up the Skat, and on TV we were already shouting about it five years ago. The Su-57 has no future, this was recognized by the Ministry of Defense, the plane turned out lumpy!

The maneuverability of the 57 fighter aircraft, punctuated by Chinese electronics, crashes, crumbles in the air, the chassis are not manufactured, the lantern could be made unbroken, the layout is rough, the neotenous, the scattering ability fades before F-3, he fonit as a garland, he will be knocked down, he does not even notice, with such engines he does not even get away from the old MANPADS Red Ai. They were limited to 22 units, they realized that this machine is not worth the candle. I hope for Mikoyan and Gurevich the fifth generation will be udachi more.

If someone finds in the Internet Chinese news agency Sina - will receive a pie pie with the shelf.

The Su-57 is the worst aircraft in history. And let the "experts" continue to think so. Not so long ago, they were sure that Russia did not have and does not foresee hypersonic weapons.
The SU-57 is currently being upgraded to a 6th generation aircraft. So let the "experts" believe that nothing is working.

This F-22 scoop is copied from the titers of the Americos, or what they do not know how to do themselves, it's all our scientists. And Amerikos are fat asshole assholes

If you are a military pilot, then I'm exactly an astronavigator with an experience of years so 20))))

For me, the Su-57 is still a disgrace, a half-copy of the F-22, crossed with the YF-23. A can, a raw vessel, no stealth coating, no engines with low HK "exhaust", what is the 5th generation? does not even reach the 4th! The F-22 is the best 5th generation fighter in the world at the moment and it will not have competitors for another 20 years!, I am telling you this as a military pilot and an expert in the field of aviation.

What, can not I copy?

Well, it's bret, the Chinese themselves have not invented anything, steal other people's ideas, although the article may be fake and Chinese people did not. And the Hindus refused because Russia refused to sell technology to them on the plane, they were beaten by shaking heads, they seriously thought that they would be handed over technology for nothing.

Indians were not given all the technology in the joint production, they also started from under the turban yapping our disadvantages a moment 57, so that fox with grapes !!

Guys, before you get excited about this resource, whose is it? Therefore, it refers to everything, just about the same as the 21 chassis is removed ;-)

But nevertheless, it is better than Su-35, as the creators of Su-35 say so. And Su-35 is better than anything the Chinese have, since otherwise they would not have bought it. It remains only to sympathize with the Chinese :)

And how the drawings of F-35 helped them if all the Ameriks were laughing at what they had done with F-35 with two engines, as they could not do normal with the thrust necessary.

29 January 2018 Sina: Su-57 with a new engine will leave Chinese aircraft construction far behind
Opinions vary 2 times a year ??? Courtesans, however :)

At the Chinese, however, there are drawings of F-35 and you do not worry about them. They want to buy a couple and draw.

Not having its own aircraft industry and, at the same time, calling some poor fighter without a "J20" engine supposedly a "5th generation" aircraft, allegedly the Chinese agency "Sina" is still mustering the audacity to call the world's best Su57 fighter "the worst Russian aircraft"? Such "experts" as from "Sina" and "aviation specialists" of India are still at the level of their own underdeveloped branches of the aircraft industry, unable to create anything worthwhile without borrowing foreign (primarily Russian) technologies. There is no need to help them in this - they are too ungrateful, receiving this help almost free and "thanks" for it with their shit.

The Chinese took offense that our drawings could not be slammed, it happens that they themselves have to look at all the super-duper technics. Only that's all the old stuff gives away, the American praise from which experts have revealed more than 100 shortcomings in China can be seen even more and that's how the kulik praises his swamp.

Such a handsome man can not be bad he is unreal the most beautiful plane of all that I've seen

Yes, this "Chinese" agency is widely known for being located in the USA. They always publish such articles.

Soviet aircraft technology prevails in the Russian Armed Forces and there is nothing to boast of modern dermocratic liberal power!

It's just that China could not copy it!

On the loose logics article, which implicitly implies that such aerodynamic slaughter as J20 is on the contrary a successful fighter ... which however does not have its engines and is forced to use morally obsolete Russian engines ... at best, AL-41F can be installed in the future.

The old saying goes, once the enemies scold, it means the thing was a success - it is necessary to take it! Yes, we still can not afford much expensive, but we do not need to waste secrets on the side.

KB - is, TsAGI is, people need a job to feed themselves and children and it is not very important what kind of aircraft ... The potential for aviation production should be maintained, although with the presence of nuclear missiles it is possible to warn any country: not shawls ... but to produce only combat helicopters, drones and civilian aircraft !!!

everyone is famous for China's technology, including military. Still, no one is interested in disposable Chinese airplanes, and one wants to sell on the world market. Therefore, Chinese media write nastiness about Russian SU-57.

Here everything is simple: China has no reason to buy our Su-57, tk. he (China) developed his aircraft. That is why it is required and necessary for us to examine our equipment. But I think he will have to buy Su-57 from us for copying our engine. That's when we'll count with him for both of us.

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