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China: modern Russian combat aircraft have no future

Chinese experts say that US military aircraft are better than Russian ones.

According to the Chinese edition "Reference News", despite the fact that in recent years Russia has been investing huge amounts of money in the development of its defense-industrial complex, today Russian military aircraft are in many ways inferior to US military aircraft. Such a decision of the Chinese specialists is justified primarily by the fact that, despite the presented high performance characteristics and unique capabilities, modern Russian aircraft, and the speech primarily refers to the 4 ++ Su-30SM multipurpose fighter and the 5th generations of the Su-57 were not used in real combat conditions, while the American F-22 and F-35 fighters were used in real combat, and their capabilities can be considered more or less open.

Quite a large criticism from the Chinese experts was subjected to modern hypersonic air-missile complex "Dagger", a demonstration of which was first presented in the framework of President Vladimir Putin's message to the Federal Assembly. Specialists do not exclude that in the arsenal of Russia hypersonic weapons could actually appear, however, until its real possibilities are presented, it is logical to assert that there is no danger of the ARC "Dagger".

* Tsankao xiaoshi (Reference news) - a daily newspaper published in China by the Xinhua news agency. 7 November 1931 year the newspaper was founded in Ruijin, Jiangxi. Initially, together with Xinhua, was the official information agency of the Chinese government.

Original article.

In addition to our aircraft, Russia has the best pilots that control these aircraft.3

The narrow-eyed themselves can not create anything at all and are engaged in purely theft of technology! And the fact that the fascist aircraft were tested in the combat conditions of the battlefield - I want to ask in what direction when neither the air defense of the enemy nor the Air Force have anything modern from weapons at all. Fascist states know how to fight only with the weak and unable to respond to the enemy. Putin is certainly a scarecrow, to put it mildly. Once you got into Syria so close the sky and forbid flying to all (!) Aircraft other than the Syrian Air Force. And to open a hunt for all flying objects of NATO in Syria. Kill and destroy them !. Only in this case the fascist states themselves will flee more than they see. And all these flirting with the fascists know what is coming to an end! Plus that you are for the president if your citizens (ChOPovtsev) are easily bombed and killed, and you sit with your tail pinned and afraid to launch missiles at the places of dislocations of fascist instructors!

The Chinese have never been our friends and never will be. At the first opportunity, they will shit on the full program. In 6 0 - years we supplied them with power plants (plant "Electric") so "our friends" did not come up with anything better how to break these installations and send them back to us with complaints. These are these "friends" to this day. "The East is a delicate and cunning and deceitful business."

Well, if you want to see a rocket in action, you need to send a couple of pieces, let them catch it!

Interesting ... "Russian planes are worse" Then why does China copy not F-xx series aircraft, but Russian Su and MiG ??? Why copy T-90 and Armata ??? This is called redneck. I can’t copy it because I don’t understand how it works - it’s worse! =)))

The usual Chinese buzzing. "Show it, and we will copy." But they are tricky.))))

Praised by your American aircraft can bomb weddings, funeral processes, schools and hospitals.

Where can I see Pugachev's cobras performed on US military aircraft?

The Chinese are engaged in plagiarism, or rather, theft, of all advanced military technologies of the US and especially of Russia, T.K. Russia, supposedly trusting them, simply Russia in this situation has no choice, if we had good relations with Europe in Russia, China should have sent this far East, from the Chinese, we should not expect anything good, to our great regret.

I was at 2005 in Ussuriysk, there are darkness there. The army is not small and not with slingshots. Your comment is not about anything.

copying, however, our planes and tanks. You can not see how to stall the missile.

Before you say anything, look at the numbers and do not invent them. In China, there were 400mln people - meaning the territory that is now China.

If the main thing, then before the Russian pogrom in 17, in Russia lived 150 million souls, and in China 100. How many are there now and there? The ideology did not change, but Russia was pirated for the second time, in 90! They imposed an anti-Russian constitution, which Putin persistently does not want to change, where the robbery of the country, its resources, treasures and banks became the law ...! The Russians, who became outcasts, second-class people, were cynically canceled! To this alignment, even Hitler and Goebbels were not ready!

So this is not the only case. Unfortunately I saw the story of the inventor about the failed project of a quiet submarine. And how many such stories? We only know how to press people and let others go by while our other homeland sells ...

Yes, it doesn't look like it, but there is a provocation. ... ... The Chinese are traders and speculators! There are just a lot of them and they are developing very quickly. ... ... And why are they developing in principle? Because they deceive others, deceive, mislead, play on several sides at once (not even two). And besides, you need to pay attention to their settling in Russia! They are quietly settling in our territories and not only in the border zones! They everywhere ! And the land they are leasing !!! They fill it with chemistry, squeeze all the resources out of it, so that the earth, after their chemical treatment, will not be able to give birth for more than a dozen years! And imagine what they raised there, what they sold to our stores and what we and our children eat !!! Did you know that the Chinese never eat what is grown for sale! They won't even touch these foods! And this is what we call the friendly Chinese people! On the good, they all need to be driven out of Russia with a filthy broom and prescribed in the law of the Russian Federation that citizens of China cannot receive Russian citizenship under any pretext !!! Tourist - like a MAXIMUM !!! AND NOT MORE !!! ... ... ... On the other hand, it is not beneficial to spoil relations with them. Surrounding yourself with enemies is not an option either! Therefore, you need to conduct with them the same policy that they conduct in relation to other countries. And that is, to be friends at a distance and not to let close. And the best option is to find exactly the way how you can simply use them to your advantage and that's it. But here you need tremendous cunning and flexibility. It's very difficult to get around these scoundrels. they "ate the dog" on this ... And do not give them our advanced technology! After all, the quick-eyed copy everything !!! In the morning they have the original in their hands, in the evening they are already selling a copy! And every year, they get better and better at making copies, because they are trying to collect their new weapons from all the advanced weapons in the World. They take something from us, something from the Pindos, something from the Europeans and create their hybrid weapons. Yes, so far they are not doing so well, but how do we say? Dashing trouble began. ... But keeping such a large enemy in your podbryuschie is also not an option !!! We already have some enemies everywhere (thanks to the Pindos). Therefore, I completely agree with Peter I, that the Army and the Navy are the only true allies of Russia !!! AND IT IS NECESSARY TO MAKE THE BASIC RESISTANCE!

What do we care about other people's articles. They carried out tests. The main thing in the other. China is ahead of us in everything. If you consider how greedy they look at our Siberia, it becomes frightening. Moreover, we have traitors who will sell their homeland for good.

where they chopped off half of Russia? no need to fantasize and fear to catch up. and what does it mean to collect 200 million "under the gun"? these are uniforms, weapons, ammunition, food, some kind of military training ... it will take a lot of money and time. they will ruin themselves by starting wars. and they are far from the first in terms of money per capita. China is still the Colossus on feet of clay. but they will throw their hats - a fact.

It is very similar to a provocation from our Chinese "friends" like you have little use of your weapon in combat conditions and preferably against the American one for an accurate comparison, and we will stand aside and observe the results and choose whom to be friends with. Once again I will quote Peter1- "Our best our ally is our army and our navy "

Looked at the original article - China very praises Russian aircraft.

This is unlikely. If the case approaches such a battle-rocket will fly to the world of kirdyk!

I wonder where and with whom / the F-22 and F-35 fighters were used in real combat, and their capabilities can be considered more or less uncovered /?

Dear Tamerlan Viktorovich! Your idea is understandable to me, because a similar idea was invented by me thirty years ago. POSSIBLE YOUR IDEA IS BASED ON COMPENSATION OF GRAVITY FOR CENTRIFUGAL FORCE. But to realize the theory is not so simple. Therefore, do not be so categorical in your judgments and be lenient towards mere mortals.

People. You that the Chinese and the Chinese took up arms. Everybody loves Russia there. Remember how the USSR helped them with education and technology. And they wonder why it all turned out that Russian engineers dream of going to China to work.

No, well, the logic is in the statements of the Chinese, we'll see for a while)), or we'll check!

3-th Newton's law refuted - and 4-th can you refute? The one on which your self-propelled unit is riding.
The body moves uniformly and rectilinearly, if the fluid in the volume of this body does not tend to bring it out of the equilibrium position.
Refute and do not boo more than one.

Fun, it's actually a cheap divorce. We can say that the Chinese are stupid, but this is clearly not so, which means that a simple logical chain "if I did not see something, it does not mean that it does not exist" is known to them, which means that such statements are just an attempt to get more information about the new opponent's weapons.

Something the Chinese did not compare their planes with American ones? Oh, yes, they simply do not have (there is nothing to compare). And under the Americans, our military (as well as all of us citizens), there was a time, also trailing. Thank God there was nothing to compare. And after all we do not lose. And there is potential. Thank you to the designers-fanatics of Russian aviation equipment. (PS apologize for the pathetic)

It is ridiculous to assess the quality of aircraft and missiles based on the lack of their characteristics. The Chinese just want to get samples for copying.

Kitai did not really fight, but he should not be thrown off the floor of Russia, he already practically chopped off without a warrior so do not underestimate them. They all slowly copied from the machinery and the army spent 2 weeks on mobilizing the current of infantry in the 200 million without specials the form of flyers and tankmen and other specialists

Hardly believe, but here's a story for us why we will lose the war. Min. Defense was interested in my theoretical development of the power plant. After its confirmation by the military scientific commission, I was given 6 months to create a prototype with a technical group. I would have had a month. But suddenly the generals decide to push me out of the topic. From my hands the assistant to the commander-in-chief VKS Kondratiev takes technical documentation, after which all my requests are blocked. And why should they some peasant who does not have a degree and does not have high patrons. Here there is a smell of Nobel and great salutations from the President. At first they gave me orders to intimidate me to keep silent. I'm put in a car, brought to the station where a major with two bastards, the same as he, beat me hard 2 March 2018 on Ilyinka 3 / 8 building 5. Then they publish in a few Internet newspapers a bredyatina that they allegedly detained me 2 March, because what kind of voices in my head that there was talked about ... That I was helped by a psychiatrist, etc. That is, preparing the ground to hide in Durku. Then came the submachine gunners (machine-guns then why, idiots! ) But I already changed the address the day before. The military searched for me, realizing that the story had gone too far and they did not have a way back - the president was framed, they say, the development of a carrier aircraft, a super duper rocket ... Everything under the cover of Leonov's engine with the debiloid idea of ​​a minireactor in a rocket. If they had already created a prototype, the cartoon would not have been shown. The generals did not know that I had beaten them. Having reason to doubt their honesty, I handed Kondratiev technical documentation hastily made the day before, without reflecting the most important knot. Yes, I gave them the principle of the power plant, but the principle itself still needs to be "dressed" in the design. So this knot in itself is an additional discovery and it will be too tough for their designers to solve this problem. Months will pass and designers will have to admit that the power plant is scattered when power is applied to it. Then the generals will begin to write something to the president on his question about the prototype. Then they will start looking for me. But they themselves forced me to hitchhike to Belarus, from where I flew away so that our brave "Napoleons" would not get me. Well, briefly that can give an installation: 100% absorption of the weight of the machine. Take off from the site and land on any surface. Speed ​​in dozens of flies in airspace and in airless speed is not limited. Increased speed for ships, submarines ... To the nearest planets in a few hours ... There will be no need for screws, turbines, or propellers. the power plant itself gives the movability to the machine, not pushing off air, water, land. I proved the fallacy of Newton's third law. And that's what happened. They do not even realize that if the analogue turns out to be a potential enemy, then the enemy machine, without wasting fuel, will be able to hang in the airless space over any of our objects so that we can not even begin to respond to the attack. When the seller of furniture is appointed as the Minister of Defense, so that he sells all the state. enterprises located on the balance Min. Defense, what is the result of waiting for such a personnel policy? I gave these crooks not just a technological breakthrough but a new era in space and aviation, but fucking greed overwhelmed their minds. And in none of the departments did not find a worthy officer who would have investigated why this was done with the inventor. Now I'm not in Russia and the installation will not be able to do it myself. None of the officers had the courage to ask whether I'm lying or not. To do this, it was enough to contact the members of the scientific commission in the mountains. Krasnodar, which 6 June 2017 listened to my report on the power plant. The commission was held at the Higher Military Aviation School. They were not concerned with the question of the expediency of the invention, but only to conclude whether the installation is capable of letting the machine move without using the external environment-air, water, land. The rogues created a second commission fake to have a false reason for my blocking. The Bezdari did not come up with anything smarter than deceiving me, about the alleged necessity of a second learned commission on Znamenka, 19, where I arrived. But the commission was not scientists, but the guys from Min. Buy and sell defense. The team solyanka from different departments. They sat 15 min. Did not look at the drawings, did not discuss the essence of the matter and stated the following (do not believe it) They say that we do not consider the invention expedient if we can not see it. Make a ready tank, airplane, machine and at least army boots and we'll look and decide to buy it for Min. Defense or not. I am at a loss, I do not understand what is happening and I ask them to consider the drawings and m. .. To which answer that in 15 minutes they do not intend to delve into some kind of blueprints. They advised me to seek money for Skolkovo, where they would make an installation so that they could see and pronounce their decision. Yes, they need to work with psychiatrists! That is, I can give Russia the most powerful weapon on condition that if I go with an outstretched hand to look for sponsors, then I will pay for the creation of the installation in violation of the regime of secrecy and only then these strange guys will see whether to take this miracle into the arsenal for Min. Defense! And here on this falsified commission swindlers and lean in the reports about the reason of my blocking. But in the reports there is no truth about the essence of this second false commission. Yes, this can happen only in the very out-and-out debility department!
This is the story. Believe it or not, the sequel will be very loud. I'll disgrace these rascals all over the world. Now the first violin is in my hands. It will be fun, believe me. It is bitter, very sad and sorry for our country, which is in the clutches of such idiots.
Respectfully, Tamerlan Viktorovich

Of course, the Chinese are great specialists in aviation. Though people would not laugh.

Sasha, you can learn about science and technology simply - look at the competitions in institutes and the number of entrants, everything will become clear. And if ALL your friends just do laziness and get-togethers, then this is the problem of friends, not of the country.

I do not know how about the American minds, but, on the other hand, our submarines did not freeze into ice during the exercises. And if this happened, then with the Russian savvy, no one can compare. Obo ... would write, but defroze. Russia can not understand Russia's mind until 0,5 is drunk. When it's drunk half a liter, it does not seem tricky. Trying to understand more deeply, already smells like a liter.

So say the last years 20, and all about the fact that we still use the developments of the USSR and they will last for 5-10 years and then everything, the collapse ......

How our achievements haunt everyone. Once at the top of their lungs they yell: "bad", which means - GOOD. Poor awareness of the author of the article, in fact, these aircraft were tested by us in Syria.

Until there is an excellent education, until there is an excellent technical school, until the youth will not only hang out, but will engage in science and technology .. talk about new military development is not necessary. Only one corrupt government can not leave. In the US, billions are invested in science and technology and use not only their minds, but also minds from other countries of the world. What was developed in the USSR is enough from the force for 10 years, and then sucks

with the beginning it is necessary to analyze the actions of our army in Syria of its capabilities and then about something to say

On the Chinese source, there is nothing critical.

As said comrade Sukhov from the movie The White Sun of the Desert-: That's for sure!; !!!

Yes, and never was. Because we need more than ever consolidation and do not succumb to provocations. After all, there is a beginning of cleansing among thieves.

And China then fought, and with whom: a funny state of Southeast Asia!

YES, THEY WENT ALL FOR X .....!

Anyway, it's true or not, we, Russia does not have allies except the army and the fleet.

But there is a real ... By the way, and think about the future ...

This is not demagoguery from the Chinese, but from our pseudo-journalists. I'm certainly xs, but the source has nothing to do with the spring. I did not see the aircraft. The article refers to the latest developments, which the president mentioned, and compares the icebreaker fleet of the Russian Federation and the United States. Maybe, of course, the source did not indicate it, but I give the tooth that words about what has grown. aviation has no future, just an invention of the journalist, who are hungry for the HYIP. For in these words there is not even a basic logic.

Are they pushing us to practical use, for example, in Syria, or somewhere else?

The planes of analogues are still riveting to ours-licensing is over, but they are still riveted, and money is not paid like everyone else, and at the same time the shchi doubt it ??????????

The logic is striking. If the technique has not been tested in combat, then it is no good at all. A sample of demagogy, in this case from the Chinese (not all, but so, from some). These nonsenses did not even need to be voiced here, too much honor.

And Su-35! And already worked Su-57 (PAK FA) in the recent past ...

Guys! The Anglo-Saxons are advancing on all fronts! About the worthlessness of our military aviation, they are already, except for the Indians, and the Chinese have connected ... all are sold for loot ... But, as they say, the one who laughs last laughs well! Why then did the Raptor (F-22) carry its legs (5th generation), by the way, from the Su-35 (4 ++), when it stood up for our attack aircraft? Americans are afraid of our flyers like fire! They do not have such combat experience as Soviet, and now Russian pilots ... History has proven this long ago! At least in battles with German aces during World War II. It's just that the Anglo-Saxons have such a petty policy of ruining everyone from the inside, out of the blue ... some with money, some with drugs, and some with blueness ... etc. In open combat, they are cowards. More and more strive to win at the expense of advanced technologies. But we are not bastard either!

Alexander is right, why did they bother with previous ones from ours ?!

No, the Chinese are not slowly populated in the far east! Very active! In Chita, there are only Chinese people and signs in Chinese !!!

There everything is written ... not experienced in real combat ...
From the point of view of the sales market - this significantly affects the situation ... But !!! The Chinese really want all the new products to be demonstrated in Syria !!! Then they will put even greater pressure on Amers ...
Look more and more, learn to read between the lines ..

Whom? Vietnam! True, they had to flee, they did it, and after all, they dropped more charges on Vietnam than in the entire Second World War. And the result? That's how they fight - they push their heads together, and they themselves sell weapons to both sides. And we were already visited by "foremost workers" in armament, but only had to learn to run. Fast, fast! I would generally talk less, hide more. Found - shut up and lost - shut up!

The Chinese orbital station is uncontrollably falling, perhaps, to the territory of the United States. I sympathize, but the assessment of our aircraft by these specialists is ... some DOUBTS

In these comments all of our essence: incompetence, boasting and hats cast and shower. Whoever has these caps is much more!

China our planes can not copy, hence such attacks.

PIPESH AND PROVOKATSIYA, HOW ABOUT SARATOV, HEARED THE CALL, YES DO NOT KNOW WHERE HE IS !!! WHERE IT IS WRITTEN, SHOW! ON THE FENCE IS ALSO RECORDED, BUT NOT ALL THERE WALK! WRATH, PURE WATER!
STALIN IS NOT ENOUGH, NOW, WITH AN SUFFICIENT ATTACK ON ANYONE, ANY PANICER AND A TRACK ON THE KOLYM, YOU SHOULD REFER.

So, the Chinese declare a time-out in the supply of weapons.

You are right for all 100. And it's not worth reacting to such fakes. China is called Great and for the fact that they know how to listen, see, learn, but never sound what they think about

I remember how in 60-ies we literally talked about Japan and that they can only copy, including. and Soviet achievements. And not to see that the situation has already radically changed - it is necessary to be blind. At one time in the USSR there were half the world's engineers, and now this half is in the PRC. And there many of them studied at the best universities in the world. And now they know how to do a lot of giant series, which we do not know how.

Would you like to see it sitting on the deck?

Completely agree with you, but look with the budget of the country more cautiously - peregnet Yakolki Ridge and the workers of RUSSIA will not like being the best - BUT THE WORSE ALMOST THE WORLD ONEST!

Comments are just fantastic! Experts are your mother! ))

Well done, but how was the translation?

The best in the world aircraft from Russia. There is no doubt about this. In Russia, whatever you take is the best. The main task of the winners is to keep their secrets and not be distracted by a second-rate foreign country. To do this, we must abandon all imports in principle and completely close the border so that the mouse does not run into any such direction! All non-Bulgarians and even more willing to send to the Primorsky Territory to develop virgin lands, just in case. Forward! Hooray!

In the source text, there is not a word from Chinese experts who allegedly claim that American combat aircraft are better than Russian ones. I looked through all the 22 pages of the source. It simply cites what the GDP in the exhibition hall and about the Russian icebreaking fleet talked about.

On the Chinese binocular You can aim! And in Russian, you can get!

Zabeyti x they again want to sift new technologies as for all the time they did not come up with anything

Let's not forget that China is developing in this direction, this is the first thing. Second, some of the articles in such publications are ordered. Thirdly, I think soon the "combat use" of new machines will be announced. For nothing they were transferred to Syria.

It is a great pity to admit that China is in fact an adversary and has plans for the Far East and the time will come when they will not try to take possession of our lands in another difficult way by peaceful means, but now they see a quiet preparatory program for code, and are slowly populated in the far east, in the law on preferential rights ransom our lands and natural resources, harming us.

Our Air Force has always been the best, and the Chinese let them quack less .... they have where not to "spit" all our weapons only give their names, let them copy then the technique of the Americans, otherwise only bitches know how to copy without any for that permissions.

Brad is full about Russian planes!

In general, I think that it is not worthwhile to show new weapons and airplanes to the general review. And show in action where you already need to apply it. Then they will think with their head that Russia has a terrible weapon in her stash, and what they will already be guessing. But I do not think it's worth opening cards. The Chinese say why they talk about our weapons and airplanes, because to strip and then do it for themselves. They have almost nothing of their own. All of them rip off from other countries and remodel, and then they say that they did it themselves. I do not believe China. Gently shoot, hard to sleep.

George, thank you, for such a wise comment ... I agree to all100

The article is an explicit propaganda of the West. Soviet nuclear weapons (Thank God !!!) were not used in combat conditions, unlike the United States. Wishing to make statements about its unreliability as it was not!
There are no other arguments in the article.
In a similar article "American specialists: Russian aircraft are good only on paper"
http://avia.pro/news/amerikanskie-specialisty-rossiyskie-samolyoty-horos...

The main "proof" was the fact that India is dissatisfied with the maintenance of our fighters. There may be a bitter truth in this, but not all. Here questions of international politics, unfortunately India is moving further and further away from us. However, they are not going to buy American fighters either.

This can be answered only one thing. Our fighters were, are and will be better)))
And in fact they are afraid and respected.

Their comments, their own business. And I believe that our airplanes are better

There was no academic science and technology in China. Their recent technology springboard is replication. This must be remembered and from here it is necessary to evaluate their economic miracle.

You have to serve in the army and then giggle. Computer pimple! What I saw, heard and learned there gives me full faith in the words of V.V.P. Moreover, given my experience in the service, I suspect that this is not all of our capabilities. I am 100% sure that this is just a little bit voiced as a warning. This is known to all who served in the R.S.V. and did not erase his fingers on the "keyboard" and the ass on the couch.

Full provocative *** nya. Russian Dryers for today are the best technical product. in the world.

kitojaizi spichki w glasa postawte lutsche widet budite

Did you ever serve? Armada .. You list f1. Рпг-7 .Клалаш.МиГи in various modifications. Our armored vehicles. So that's all that they have new, this is basically improved over time our old.

In Russia there is no electronics anymore ...
What high-precision weapons? Only from the times of the USSR.
Or you can already aim at the Chinese binocular.

and who saw these cartoons show cartoons and yes you believed ha, ha ..!

Well, it's necessary to give one racket to Kitaiu. And see how they intercept

China is smart to learn all the details

Shrewd Chinese in advance omit our equipment - they are aiming to compete with it in the markets ...
While they can only copy something and it's not very clear when they can create something fundamentally new ... and thank God!

Do you believe that this is really a Chinese article? In my opinion it was composed by some kind of dropout on the principle of "people hawala". This is nonsense, they forgot that the Communist Party rules in China, but here they write that this state-owned media outlet, even if someone thinks that our VKS are not strong enough, the Chinese will never write like that. Pure, cheap bullshit is a fake.

If you go crazy at once, then the economy is already in the first place ...

How many of our people died not counting !?

I, too, first of all thought about the cunning of the Chinese. Yeah - they criticize that they are shown, they reveal all the secrets ..

And who and in which specific battle to defeat the US aircraft won?

There is no side-chapel for the slyness of swindlers from the Celestial Empire, ".... to demonstrate the possibilities in a real battle ..." they know the capabilities of the Americans and they do not impress the Chinese ... And they need to promote their Jay ... competition on the world market ...

Well, experience is a gain, Syria will not be over tomorrow ... Chinese aircraft by this logic should not be considered at all ... but it's quite possible that the Chinese give a pre-negative assessment to our aircrafts because either they cunicate their aircraft, or gathered to buy ..

Do not tell me my slippers)))) huh))) maybe, you have to test every new atomic bomb every time. Putin has never shown himself a liar - he is not that person!

the Chinese are cunning so they write to see our fighters in the business in the living

If American technology is better, what are they trying to copy our weapons. Even an unfinished aircraft carrier bought from Ukraine, and it was laid down even under the USSR.

Who delivers this to you? Echo of Moscow? or directly?

totally agree

As for their level of living, I agree to all 100%. China in no way equals the growth rate of its GDP.

I think so

Do not tell Grandma. Asiatics are not destined by nature anything other than trade.

Really? In the Great Patriotic War, we threw them caps together with their heads. What are we going to throw their missiles now? What else will we pull out, then shake?

Spitting of our VKS is a clever plan of China. They want NATO to believe them, and not afraid to strike Russia, not China. These are our allies!

It's not about the amount of weapons and, accordingly, money. Enough 100 rockets, constantly ready and guaranteed to hit the enemy, in defiance of their missile defense. So that is all.

What are you talking about the size of the economy and the size of GDP? When Hitler invaded the USSR, Germany's GDP was 2 times more, and the war ended with the complete defeat of Germany and the capture of Berlin. As for China: despite the pace of development, the average common man lives much poorer than the Russian, and there are incomparably more social guarantees in Russia.

The Chinese oh how far away from our aviation, very not fair competition, they want to sell their airplanes. China, as our engines do not copy, no shit is obtained, 100% of the brains are not enough!

Sly Chinese, but we Russians are not shit shit. Intelligent will understand, but a fool is not required.

The Chinese are already sawing Siberia, the whole forest was taken out, and ours only think that they have military equipment. Idiots, you are robbed even without war, but you are fooling about some defense industry. the Chinese have learned to copy and military equipment, so in every rumor there is some truth.

The conclusion is simple: Nehru brag about what you do not have and it's not known when it will be.

It seems the Chinese are right. In the beginning it is necessary to prove them beyond ability, and then boasts. Now at least they have ceased to boast of the ARMADA tank, otherwise they passed the tests as the best in the world.

everything will be clear when the military will speak and not the diplomats

The Chinese are hardworking people, but with creativity they have # $ # $ # $ #.
Copy everything that is produced in the world - its nothing.
Well, the copies are much worse than the original.
Therefore, their point of view can not correspond to reality.
Let them say to themselves, if, of course, they really said it.

The economy is our fifth, but the essence is different, I'm fussing over your economy with three missiles and there is no economic and national power to oppose them with a necha

SUCH A SENSATION THAT THE LAST YEARS AND THE FOSSILES AND THE YANKS WANT TO EVERYTHING TO TEST ON ITSELF. AND VISIBLE IN THE LAST FOR THEM TIME.

The stupid provocation on the part of the PRC (I'm still an ally), a cheap attempt at neuro-linguistic programming (take on Slabo!), In attempts to the fact that our military officers took it and disclosed the TSX-57. The enemy will not pass!

Was at the competitions air strikes, very badly the Chinese on the targets worked on their planes, not worse than ours, so I would not be so categorical

Chinese Your gods are Japanese forever, remember this and pray to them on 10 times a day.

The Chinese opinion is correct. And all because in the current state of Rasein, all normal military developments were made in the Soviet era. Under Soviet science and education. The rat has driven education and science into a corner ...

CHINESE AS HAVE PROSTITUTE ...... AND OUR AND YOURSELF. AND POTYCHARA KNOW WHAT TO DO, EXPAND TO US IN SIBERIA AND HIKE AMERICANS THEIR PITCHES TO LET THEY WANT.

The competitors have no friends. And that, you can also try out our new weapon-fuck at the testing ground in the USA! /

Tank biathlon from year to year shows what Chinese tanks are capable of, which break on the tracks when performing simple exercises. Our T-72s participate in biathlon from all countries and take first places. So do Chinese planes, bullshit in one word. They are like Japs. they began to steal our inventions and alter them for themselves, sculpting them out of ** rm, like Chinese machines like "Lifan"

They have an interesting logic about the "Dagger". That is, if they have not yet destroyed you, then "it does not pose any danger. The Su 57 aircraft is not yet in service, but they demand" its manifestation in real combat conditions. "The article was written by a fool. The conclusion is simple - the best airplanes are made by China! Hurray!

but what about the Times article "on Britain's accession to Russia? Is it fuin too? And our diplomats approved and agreed. So what fuin? An article or diplomats."

What do you do for this economy? except as komenty write.

Do not have a future ?! What kind of hohlo-Chinese .... jealous silently, clowns.

It is logical. Military equipment can only be tested in blue. And for this you need to start a war. And as usual, the third party wins the war. And China is trying to weaken Russia. so that Russia was forced to return the so-called "Chinese territory" and half of Siberia.

Totally agree

You do not open your grandfather's mouth, shut your jaw.

Well, the Chinese are great specialists in waging wars. Especially in the sky ...

They have their own interests. So, to enrich our weapons, too, is included in this program.

these allies will still show their face a hope only for themselves on the sly stole not at a loss and their direct direct

I saw Chinese, even sitting in an armchair ...... everything is so beautiful and blissful. One word is beautiful jewelry ... glamor.A we can and debel, but horseradish hammer razobesh.Dazhe dashboard.

In what real battles were the Pindos aircraft tested? The F-35 generally flies at the speed of a civilian aircraft. Well, of course, the quick-eyed are pushing their plane. Russia is a competitor, that's why our Chinese "brothers" are trying so hard to screw our planes.

Our friends are Chinese, who are trying to snatch something new somewhere. Therefore, here, as it were, they do not trust the new product, they say in more detail. What does it matter? - we will show.
They would be more worthy of USA to look in vain.

Our friends are Chinese, who are trying to snatch something new somewhere. Therefore, here, as it were, they do not trust the new product, they say in more detail. What does it matter? - we will show.
They would be more worthy of USA to look in vain.

The argument against Russian aircraft is simply killer. Once a nebyl in real fighting means bad, unfinished. So that's what wars are for!

This is China then no one in the world? .... In general, the second economy! Forgot-remind us what we are? ..... And we fall all lower!

The article is full of details, the Chinese did not write it. With the current relationship between China and Russia, such a demarche of any Chinese would mean a complete pipets, the government would have made it past long ago !!!

Roman, in US reconnaissance has already checked 1000 information about our missiles and airplanes and there too, not all of them used to mold pelmeni and worked as hairdressers! If everything was as bad as some of our fizdabols think, then Russia should have long been trashed like Syria, Lebanon ..... etc! Remember the Crimea-without a shot shot (returned). Not one bitch twitched !!! The most rabid furiously gnawed their chains, releasing their poison, but through their fear no one dared to cross.

You're friends with a head !? What is the relationship between the capabilities of combat aircraft and corrupt politicians? Or the whole brain skipped already ??

my friend you are small and do not remember Damansky where they had only a grenade launcher now they have everything right up to A B

Unfortunately, this spins up an arms race in which Russia has no chance against the NATO bloc. Military-industrial complex of NATO receive additional. loot and in a number of years the Russian Federation will have to throw out even more money for the next re-equipment and re-equipment

Those who do not receive any attention are bluffing. Those who are essentially "nobody" in the world.

Guest, dear, matrices for PNV (MCP) plant, which I worked on, serially released in 80-x. Now they are doing the same at a subsidiary enterprise. True in the last 5-7 years, the Chinese have caught up with our products for quality, and at the price of their products are lower. Do not write about things that are not sufficiently oriented.

Gentlemen commentators ... do not go down to the level of a market grandmother. Life will put everything in its place, whether we want it or not. One thing is clear for sure-if sanctions are announced to us, they mean to us, respect .About China? China would like to buy ours aircraft 5 generation, but they no one sells them. And they would so like to release as quickly as their own .... all weapons of China is a copy of our weapons. He did not invent anything, and I think that they will never come up with anything!

Every rubbish .. wants to see something with his zenki .. Nerazrosli still china .. If you see something in real combat ... And for you it will be too late .. The curious barbarians

Do not pay attention to these squalid (Romanov), they just have to pay off on their country.

To carry cocaine by dip-mail in government aircraft, under the cover of SU-57 - cool. Not for nothing # DYEEDED

And how much patience they have, so much hammering with the purchase of these "bad" Dryers. And where to go, all copy and the engines are not copied into a vein ... you see, in the manufacture of parts you need metal with a cunning recipe. They mold their super fifth with engines Drying, where to go, when the shirt is short, you can't pull it below the navel. "

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