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Experts: rejection of Soviet principles will not make Su-57 effective

Foreign experts told why the Russian Su-57 has little chance to enter the foreign market.

Until recently, foreign experts were unflattering about the capabilities of the 5-generation Su-57 fighter, in particular, both China and India stated that the Russian aircraft not only can not surpass the American F-22 and F-35 fighters in time of a real battle, but, it is likely, will be substantially inferior to them.

Specialists note that the only advantage of the Russian Su-57 fighter is its high maneuverability, however, only this fact will not allow it to become the most efficient airplane in the world.

According to experts from China, the Russian fighter 5-th generation will not be able to demonstrate its effectiveness until it shows itself in real combat, as air strikes on ground targets can be performed with the same efficiency by 4 fighter aircraft.

As for the information that appeared in a number of Indian publications, the experts' arguments point to the fact that Russian aircraft designers made a big mistake by abandoning Soviet quality standards, in particular, various innovations only complicated the design of the aircraft, which led to an increase in price, however, increase the effectiveness of its application.

* Su-57 (factory index T-50) - a promising Russian multifunctional fighter of the fifth generation, developed by OKB named after PO Sukhoi within the framework of the PAK FA project.

Experts argue that experts prove .... It's ridiculous. I read the opinion of the best expert, who says that it's better not to come up with an airplane, but the most famous specialist just said about T-50 it's just fantastic! The Russians again applied the knowledge they received from aliens, I can not propose another explanation. No money, resources, America's minds could create something like this in maneuverability ....

As if American or Chinese aircraft proved their capabilities in real combat. With whom, forgive, proved?

Well, at the expense of the Hindus, these people want for five rupees to get not only the technology of production, but all technical documentation. Of course, they will prove with foam at the mouth that the plane is bad.
At the expense of the Chinese, these ghouls sleep and see the whole world in their pocket, copy everything, tanks, guns, planes, although it turns out but still something is not right.
The same we see and at the expense of their (Chinese) tank, oh, he is, uh, he is a clod, and finally can directly be the most samy itself. And you'll see in the near .... so-so average little tank then.

Delirium you write a dude. Chinese drone - three kg of suspension and lack of guarantees that it will replace the combat aircraft with a load of 6-8 tons. China does not have its own navigation, they are using JDSS and GLONASS in anticipation of their own. You write nonsense and betray it for your opinion.

Armament in Russia, a bastard, is done on its electronics. A car for a long time is not rusty, tk. are issued in joint ventures. The weapon is produced and created by the cleverest Russian people!

There are no rusty cars for a long time. Electronics copied or not does not matter, it looks and is produced for military personnel, regardless. The fact that Putin knows how to surprise everyone. At first, as a tabernacle appeared modern army (who remembers what was in 90 and even 080808 perfectly understand the difference) Similarly, out of nowhere appeared strategic calibers. And exactly as long as a new nomenclature of strategic weapons appeared in words, I am sure that these are not just words

We have already seen with ... the Raptor from Su-35 in Syria. As close as possible, takskt ...

Ah ... If I can not draw, then how can I sing? The logic is iron! ;)

On the Chinese aircraft 5 generation are why for some reason our Hindu engines do not have what China has and of course they will shit in order to bring down the price. F-35 on readiness almost at the same level as our T-50 mean that on both planes there are enough problems and not one of them can not boast of an air battle against an equal opponent. I want to look at India's purchase of F-35 and subsequent squeals and whine after receiving the goods.

In which "during the real battle" all the so-called. 5th generation aircraft.

And with whose words to make conclusions ?? From those whose cars come from plants rusty ???))) Or from those whose radio electronics copied from the western ???)))))
Or seriously believed that weapons in rashke riveted Martians ???)))))))))

If someone has doubts about the superiority of SU-57 (T-50) over foreign analogues, why not arrange a full-scale competition?

Japan has long had its own carriers, which allow launching satellites into space!

It is clear about the West, they already have the very "best in the world", about China and India they cannot create themselves, and they also act as experts. Then why the hell did the Su-30 and Su-35 buy. Asian burdocks.

100500 let them buy Chinese !!!!!! ahahahahahaaa !!!;))))

This is good cars do, Germans !? They have long forgotten how to do this.

What is written in India and China is predictably understandable. India is a potential buyer and its task is to bring down the price of piling up what it wants to buy. China as a copy specialist is also afraid not to copy it. This is the money

Just like we fly into space, despite the fact that making good cars the Germans and the Japanese do this, in fact, do not know how. Here, in fact, how? To whom cars to stamp, and to whom planes to do and fly into space.

And what do not you write? It says there are no KiTai bachi ci vinischuvachi in battle. And who bachiv in a quick battle kitaiski abo amerikanski F-22 abo F-35. No one's bachi. So, then, for the sake of boshchar?

I'm shocked by all the conclusions from the words of the pindos and the grind of the punching machines and copiers, that's why we need to compare g ** but f35 or f22 with a good fighter su 57. If Xunx su already surpasses them in everything, do you really think that Xunxx is worse than 35

Since when did China become a rival in Russia's armament?

In 2011, it cost about 100 million, today its estimated value of 72 million dollars - well, not 2 times, in 1,5, and that the most interesting thing is that it fits India

Tell the honest people that China invented it twice as cheaply?

Quite right. The Indians need cheaper and to give them all the secret documentation, so that they can collect them for themselves. Who will agree to this. America does not want to. More than that, they can, in principle, merge our secrets.

China is trying to remove the competitor from the market and the Hindus require technology of production su 57 because themselves wanted to produce it and our refused

So, be quiet if pi $ # $ # did not shoot down 4-th generation aircraft. I'm not saying that su-57 is super-duper. So do not say that you have # $ # $ # $ super f35 and f22. who are Indians and Chinese? .China in general, its Chinese trash wants to promote. Of course, it will cost 2 times cheaper. The devils did not agree on the price and they say that this is trash. This is not a guideline for the conclusions.

What is aviadarts - show and nothing else. Yes, the F-35 and F-22 did not shoot down the 4th generation aircraft, but the Russian "ultramodern" themselves have not yet proven themselves (yes, 20 years ago), what do the Indians and the Chinese say to you - you can throw out this trash? , especially since China made its own at a price 2 times cheaper

If we can't make a good car, how can we make a great plane ?! The Hindus have abandoned the SU-57 ("yesterday," they say!) The Chinese make excellent combat drones and offer us to use them instead of the SU-25 in Syria! And then the Aerospace Forces, and the old Soviet SU-24 and SU-25 planes without computers.

What planes f35 shot down? A moment 21 or a moment 15.Th you bring the countries where there is really no aviation.Who were bombed in Syria and Libya ground targets? I'm telling you about avidartsy about tank biathlon in terms of the fact that Russia is not afraid to compete. And the pendos only and urinate who is weaker.

+++ is absolutely true the most real version of what is happening but proaerit it means it really snacks with pindos on it no one will go only $ all other things matter

collective farmers' meeting

Silly you, who need your air strikes, also to me the level. f-35 was used both in Libya and Syria, if you did not know, in Syria they were downed four planes, and Su-57 knocked down only paper

We ourselves are afraid to admit that the Chinese and the Hindus are in many ways right.

In what battle did they participate. Did they shoot down the 100 airplanes a year ago?

Che experts say? How does fNNUMX collapse in the air, the cladding is broken. How much did it take to create 35? Not a few Millard $. Pindos do not even compete. On air, tank biathlon. Because I'm afraid of fucking up. In real combat, who checked f35 ?. Also on ground targets fired. Air battle was not niodnogo.Tak zasun your language in one place.

The Americans even participated in the real battle (google), and therefore they are taken, and Russian (as the Jews said) - most likely the metal will be dismantled

And who in real combat checked the airplane at the pendos? Also bombarded the punished goals. And the Chinese bluntly can finally carry the nonsense. Where their Chinese planes

In which the Chinese are right to express some doubts and that there really is a reason for this avionics, and unverification in the real air and air defense
confrontation ... although the tasks for frontline aviation are slightly different than for fighter aircraft ... we will be hoping for success because T50 only recently spread its wings yet there is still work to upgrade and improve both the samalet and its weapons .... this is now the main task

Profukali we are shovels - the very thing that was simple, reliable and cheap, and now nobody wants to take it - it's better to take several 4 ++ planes for this money than to take something incomprehensible

Yes, our are not suitable in comparison with the American, and are not much more expensive, what you experts say

Well, until we see it in action, the plane can be called a cardboard box, why the Chinese and the Hindus are right

F-22 and F-35 will win in the air battle Su-57, the sense of taking it, it's better to take the Americans. This is how to compare the Volga and the Cadillac

Damn, but you've already been told that this pukalka for 100 million is not needed by anybody, profukulya Soviet and now you can paw the suck

Indians are bargaining and driving down the price. The Chinese belittle the competitor. If the Indians don't like the SU-57 so much, let them buy their F-35 from the Pindos. It will be both "cheap" and "cheerful".

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