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US: Russian airliner MS-21 is not needed by anyone


Analysts from the US do not believe in the promise of the Russian airliner MS-21.

The successful tests of the second passenger airliner MS-21-300 did not convince specialists from the United States of America that Russian aircraft could create at least some kind of competition for the American aircraft manufacturing market.

The head of the American corporation Boeing recently announced record-breaking earnings in 2018, noting that in 2017, the number of aircraft delivered to customers was also quite impressive. In fact, Dennis Mullenburg does not even fear any competition from Russian aircraft manufacturers, as was noticed by analysts, who made a number of very high-profile statements on this issue.

"The sector of American aircraft construction, in particular, it is about the corporation" Boeing "does not even consider the aircraft produced by the corporation" Irkut "as competitive. Obviously, this is due to the fact that Russian airliners can replace only obsolete airplanes, that is, we are talking about several hundred aircraft, which is also indicated by a relatively small portfolio of orders ", - says the publication "East Day".

"The Russian airliner MS-21 does not have any significant characteristics and special properties, and its cost is comparable to the cost of aircraft produced by" Airbus "and" Boeing ", in fact, aircraft tested by time. Do not consider Russian aircraft as any breakthrough of the monopoly established by Europe and the US, and, most likely, the appearance of this airliner will not change the current state of things ", - says the publication "The National Interest".

"The appearance of the MS-21 airplane in Russia rather became a self-realization for this country than an achievement of any significant effect", - said in the publication "Express".

Previously, the resource Avia.pro already reported that compared to the Chinese analogue COMAC C-919, the Russian aircraft MS-21 has almost twice the cost, which, according to experts, can create much more severe competition for the Russian aircraft and aircraft produced by Airbus and Boeing

* MS-21 is a Russian near-medium-haul narrow-bodied passenger airplane. The first flight took place 28 May 2017 year. The beginning of series production was planned for 2017 year, but it was moved first to 2018 year, and then to 2019 year.

You do not need to invent the next bicycle, they are already full, you just need to create a means of saving the passenger for an accident in the event of an accident and then time-tested (but without the guarantees of saving your life in case of h) the airbags with the Boeing will become useless to nobody. People appreciate when they are appreciated.

All airplanes and gliders are obsolete, they could be competitively capable in many respects, so nap kicking a dead horse. MS21 is an excellent aircraft, it will take its niche, give a jolt to many adjacent factories. The only problem he has, these are commentators like you

Vladimir, but where such knowledge? In which case did the CB work?)

correctly the US understands in our aviation. It is unlikely that the MC will change something in the world aviation. Well, the government will oblige airlines to buy our shit, and this aircraft will be used. In foreign countries, ... it is very expensive, more expensive will be Boeing and Airbus. Almost all of the imported units have been assembled. It is not clear how the rogue was dragged through the budget development and production of this aircraft and the superjet too ??? Why did they start from scratch, and not from the deep modernization of the planes TU, IL, YAK, SU? Only idiots or crooks go on a complex and silly scheme. It would be cheaper three times and faster times in two! The RF CC should deal with this very well.

Telephone: +100500

a drop in the sea

yes yes .. here when you will trade with titanium and luminti trade - then you will wave your sword.

Americans underestimate the MC-21-this is good, it may be less scammy to build it.

Well, well, SSJ also said so, but now Bombardier has big problems: CSeries is not for sale and the site is not likely to be saved. But CS300 also costs> 80 million. Yes, not a competitor, but if you take> 30% of the domestic market - it will be already good. And there and foreign customers will catch up. Archaic 737-th already outlives its, as if Boeing did not want to maintain a monopoly. Even in the Max version, there is no innovation, in fact, a remake of the old one, just like everyone else. And it will cost 120 million. So, both MC-21, and the Chinese will pinch the world market nicely.

To knock down the Merican aaphos, you just need to stop supplying them with titanium and aluminum and then Broiler will become useless to anyone

If they do not compete, then they clucked. In 90-s the same USA rolled back our officials a bunch of grandmothers to destroy our aircraft industry. It's just that these guys do not throw money away. Wait and see.

you read .... and cease to be surprised that young people read and listen to what they impose and then to saliva proves that the West is ALL, and their homeland is nothing .... but thank God that most of the brains are more deep in the jungle of history, to compare the facts and see a more realistic picture of world achievements.

There is nothing to protest. The US is a world leader, uniting its allies with its power. And Russia has lost its own. Soon the "Iron Curtain" will again fall and the country-outcast will plunge into "400 years of dazzling loneliness" in the expression of the Kremlin intellectual Surkov.

The dogs are barking, the caravan is on.

Our aviation was destroyed not by competition with America, but by the traitors of the subpindos-liberals. Now there is a difficult recovery process. It is not necessary at first to sell aircraft around the world. At us the country the sizes, simply demands to develop airlines for a normal life. There will be their planes - we will restore factories, design bureaus, staff, etc. And we will impose sanctions on Boeing. And further, a single airspace with China, Iran, Turkey, Syria, etc. and in it our planes! We will buy several Airbases, so that the "elite" will fly to Europe and America. Although, why? It is under sanctions ... If anything, let it contain the personal side of the board.

Boeing and airbus each year produce 1000 pcs each. At us Ssj-100 all 150 pcs for 10 years. What kind of competition is it? We would provide ourselves, that would not be like Iran.

Quite well ....

That's it, and in general, aluminum and titanium they do not sell, then we'll see where Boeing will fly))

Always amazed by the amazing self-confidence and insolence of the Americans!

With VAZ, too, not immediately went wrong (meaning in the RF) First, the subsidies were in the amount of 10mbrd, then 20, and now everything fell into place-steel on 100mbld dated steel, so with Jet!

Not only a mass production but also a service, and this we have in general below the baseboard !!

Totally agree with you.

MS-21, and where did that X-Sum, flew no worse than an airbus and a Boeing.

Patriotism is great, but you do not need to confuse it with idiocy. And the Pindos are only amerikosy or the whole world? So it is possible, as in Ukraine, to attribute everything to yourself and what Adam really was, Mykola was. Russia is not the whole world, and its part

Originally: what kind of mud'k instructed to create a passenger aircraft Sukhoi Kb? They have military specialization. Immediately huge infusion of funds into aviation, the creation of new management structures. How did you do without clusters before? In short, the allocated funds were divided (plundered), created the "box of the plane" with all the insides imported (France, Germany, the USA), including toilets and engines. The Chinese are asking for help with electronics. Someone did not have enough money, - decided to create another MC.

What amerikosy COMPETITION FEELED? THESE PATS AND STARTED OPEN.

We need to establish the production of domestic aircraft. And whether they are good or bad, time will tell, and the number of orders for their production. About SSJ-100 also said that it is not needed, that it is 60% of imported raw materials. And now 150 pcs. produced, and orders are growing. That's Iran on 40 order made, and on MS-21 Iran is ready to shell out, as Iranians do not believe in Pinos. At the moment, no one liner in the world is being made by one country! Everything is in cooperation. If so reflect, then Boeing is not Pindos, and Airbus is not European.

It is not enough to create, but it is still necessary to establish a mass production in which Russia always has problems!

Americans simply have no luck and no luck, they have lost all the wars that were waged and now gave industrial leadership to competing countries, the MS21 will go quietly subsidized by the state and then when they gain authority they will build a big factory and launch into the series, will go and built everything and everything goes both in winter and in summer

In Buran, except for the external similarity, there was no more anything like a shuttle.

Russia fought all her life. Give years 200 to live quietly. Then we'll see where there will be naglosaksy and where we are.

I understand that you are one of these universities graduated and you. This explains a lot. Well, the education of your youth sometimes drives us into the paint. So here you are, clever. The first TV set was created in the USSR in 1928 year, the first cell phone in 1951 in the USSR, the first airplane to take off into the air was the Mozhaisky plane. The first computer was created in the USSR 1957 year, long before the creation of AI BI EM. The first spacecraft flew in 1957 in the USSR, the first station sat on the Moon of the USSR. Buran flew in a rifle in the USSR, all the shuttles flew only under the control of a man. And notice all this after the most devastating war. Throw fuck all your universities with wikipedia. The most prestigious university in the world is MIPT, for those who do not want to sell hamburgers but really want to be educated.

you are right in many respects, but for some reason reading your comment, he as well as you does not cause positive emotions, and I think it's not for nothing that Stalin once set such wise people on the wall, and it's sickening to read you and not others, understanding, despite all the problems in the country with what freaks we live in. There is no shame in copying and further developing one's own, it's foolish to invest huge amounts of money on the development of what has already been created. but you do not really need to explain this, judging by what you wrote, you're still a wit

this is an anti-Russian aircraft

Well, you see, what powerful and mighty SSpendostan and are afraid of Russia as a fire, which a century ago was an underdeveloped agrarian country, and now it is establishing a new world order. We, a hundred years ago, only plows were able to make plows, and you had the whole color of Europe worked, and WHAT in the end? We are in many positions, and the key, you overtake for dozens of years, and why? Yes, because the Russians are much smarter, more talented, more inventive than people from Europe who have crossed the ocean. Americans are a weak nation, now in a state of hysteria due to the loss of their positions on the world stage. Beginning to play leading roles very different players - China, India, Brazil, Russia. We have to come to terms with the weakness and low level of intelligence of the Pendosovs. Something like this.

this tells us rotten America and the same Europe.

From what Russia, all that you listed, these achievements come from the USSR and Russia all these achievements prosrala!

Sergey 18 May 2018 in 09: 19
You, the podpindosnik, forgot that the first satellite and the first person in Kosmos were from Russia, the first nuclear power plant and the first nuclear icebreaker is Russia, the first submachine guns that landed on the Moon were from Russia, the first automatic interplanetary ships were from Russia, the first ones to land to the surface of Venus, the apparatus was from Russia, the first AMC studied Halley comet also from Russia, the first lasers and masers also invented in Russia, the first orbital station also from Russia. The fastest and most powerful military aircraft are also from Russia, etc. You can further rub holes when reading the pages of Wikipedia, but you do not fucking understand that it is Russia that is currently generating a lot of ideas that have not even dreamed of your beloved Pindosia. Yes, now there is a crisis in Russia, but as they say: "Through the thorns to the stars," and such as you forever be a worm, "wiping holes" and pants when reading a pseudo-encyclopedia called "Wikipedia" and unable, due to its cave intelligence above her pinched dogmas ..

And the creators of MS-21 know that the main task of Russian aircraft builders is competition for the American market?

laughs the one who laughs last ...

All of the above from the USSR, and not from a colony called Russia. In Russia, however, Soviet aircraft are destroyed, and instead of them foreign screwdrivers are being screwed. Superjet - 60% of foreign components, MC-21 - 40.

Of course, the Americas have all invented, investing money borrowed from around the world. Now stick out to everyone and forgive, arranging hot spots around the world or typing unsupported candy wrappers.

And all the dirt that you papakha now with ecstasy pouring on the USSR, will talk about the United States. Yes, they say and this process is growing because there is something for that.

It is very convenient to create beloved numerous subdivisions, rating agencies, mass media, lime human rights organizations. Introduce their people and clean up those that are not acceptable from world-class organizations, such as the OPCW or the UN. And then relying on the juggled data to assert that always the first and the United States is everywhere, and the rest is allowed only to express admiration, stormy or quiet "the most democratic of the democratic countries in the world."
Yes, indeed the United States has given a lot to the world, but now people in power there inadequately assess their role and place in the world, behaving like an elephant in a china shop, spreading chaos and destruction in the Middle East and in some other regions of the world too. You do not see this, because in your opinion, the pro-American media are "the most truthful in the world and can not lie" - an erroneous view imposed by the same media. Do not see what they see in other countries affected by "democratization" and continue to carry the nonsense. Time will put everything in its place, there are no eternal empires, all the empires that ever existed did not matter "good" or "evil" ended the same way - they disintegrated and left the stage. And after their departure, a lot of hard-hitting details about their activities were revealed. The same thing awaits the "empire of good"

Eh you papamaha, America is a country of emigrants, there is no nationality, "an American" they by definition can not have anything of their own, everything that they came up with was invented by immigrants from other countries or their descendants. The concept of multi-stage missiles and the first most difficult steps in this direction and research carried out by Tsiolkovsky, the principle of the operation of rockets and in general the first rockets in the world were created by unknown Chinese inventors. Sikorsky was the creator of the first heavy bombers and the world's first helicopters, also a native of Russia. Yes, the Wright brothers are recognized as the creators of the first aircraft in the world BUT! Not all countries, there are still contenders, for example Santos Dumont from Brazil or Alfon Peno from France. It is clear that you do not know the history, or you know, but you can not depart from the instructions with instructions. In other areas, you can bring a bunch of similar examples, so do not make people laugh.

Do not introduce yourself from where?
What achievements do you boast of? but it's all Russian and Russian ...

The fact that the Americans do not need our MC-21, does not mean that it is not needed by anyone, including Russia. Russia needs it primarily on domestic airlines, so that flights are cheaper and more reliable. And the US aircraft, if America poses this question, should be ousted from our domestic air market, replacing their planes with their own.

The fact that the Americans do not need our MC-21, does not mean that it is not needed by anyone, including Russia. Russia needs it primarily on domestic airlines, so that flights are cheaper and more reliable. And the US aircraft, if America poses this question, should be ousted from our domestic air market, replacing their planes with their own.

You, the podpindosnik, forgot that the first satellite and the first person in Kosmos were from Russia, the first nuclear power plant and the first nuclear icebreaker is Russia, the first submachine guns that landed on the Moon were from Russia, the first automatic interplanetary ships were from Russia, the first ones to land to the surface of Venus, the apparatus was from Russia, the first AMC studied Halley comet also from Russia, the first lasers and masers also invented in Russia, the first orbital station also from Russia. The fastest and most powerful military aircraft are also from Russia, etc. You can further rub holes when reading the pages of Wikipedia, but you do not fucking understand that it is Russia that is currently generating a lot of ideas that have not even dreamed of your beloved Pindosia. Yes, now there is a crisis in Russia, but as they say: "Through the thorns to the stars," and such as you forever be a worm, "wiping holes" and pants when reading a pseudo-encyclopedia called "Wikipedia" and unable, due to its cave intelligence above her pinched dogmas ..

and this scoop came up with rating agencies, gee)))

We look at the history of the creation of computer technology (and computers in particular) and see that the greater contribution was made by the Americans; we look at the scientists who took part in the Manhattan project and see that the decisive contribution was made by American scientists; Oppenheimer did not have a single significant scientific work before the Manhattan project ??? Hahahaaa, well, here without comment ...; are the Wright brothers Russian? Or Charles Kaman? Rusnya and Scoops could only copy (mostly from Americans). The factories of Sovku were built by Americans and Germans (industrialization), Soviet cars (of different classes) - copies of American models, aircraft (military and civilian) too (the most striking example is Tu-4), in the civil sphere too (calculators, tape recorders, computers, etc.) - a copy of American (mostly). Hahahaaaa, what are the Germans exported? Maybe Robert Goddart (the creator of the world's first solid-fueled and liquid-fueled missiles of modern type) is German? By the way, the Germans themselves admitted that they began to invest huge amounts of money in their missile program under the impression of Goddart's success. FAU 2 in appearance resemble some of its missiles (only in increased size). But unfortunately in his homeland (in the US) he was not paid attention to and even derided. He created his own missiles at his own expense and donations of other people. We look at the number of Nobel laureates by country. Then we look at the American Nobel laureates (more than 90% Americans). There are of course also immigrants, but the point is again that they could achieve this in the United States, not anywhere else. Most of what we have now is the invention of Americans. Including the Internet in which you (ignoramus) are sitting. How can you so softly explain, but steal - not in the habit of the United States. Kral, copied and so on. - Scoop. Starting from the design of cars and ending with space (for example, Buran). We open Vmkmpedia (preferably English-speaking because there is more information) and look at the history of the development of lasers and railguns. Oh, I forgot, like you do not know English. You can only envy the achievements of the greatest country in the history of mankind and drool. Well, to invent nonsense, and then write them. It's like ... It turns out that people from the USSR launch reusable rockets, produce electric vehicles Tesla; Youtube made the descendants of Scoop, Microsoft too, and Intel; it's the Scoops invented, made and launched by Hubble, and soon will be run by James Webb; this scoop built the world's best universities (10 list of the best universities in the world - 8 American and 2 British); it's the Owls invented the transistor; it's Scoops discovered exoplanets. Did not know. Well, if seriously, it's just sad ..... It is sad to read such nonsense. You understand that your compatriots have degraded completely. What theft? What ideas? Foreign scholars and immigrants study at American universities. And of course that many remain. And many get the best education in the world and go to their homeland (mainly Chinese). What cotton, envious is it?



Their strength lies in the fact that they are the best in the world (almost always and everywhere). This is destiny. You can envy as much as you like and sprinkle with saliva, but this is a FACT. And the dollar is not here. In the 18-19 century, the dollar was not a world currency. But the whole of the US was booming and by the end of the 19 century, they had approached and soon overtaken the British Empire. The United States was the country that people aspired to (even with a prosperous seemingly European). Even during the War of Independence, the British called the Americans "inventive Yankees." All this from the very beginning was laid in the American character (independence, the desire for progress, work on mistakes, and ultimately the achievement of goals and dreams). It happened because the USA was far from Europe. The Americans built the country that the whole world began to equate in the future; the country for which you are not ashamed; the country that in the future surprised the whole world with its power (both economic and military) and achievements. And in the American example, many countries came to success (Israel, Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, most of the European countries, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc. One of the most striking examples is the FRG and the GDR. Hundreds of thousands (before the Berlin Wall was built) people fled to the FRG, the standard of living was also incomparable.You can also compare North and South Korea, Japan and Cuba, China and Taiwan, Israel and the Arab countries opposing it (in terms of living standards Yes, yes, yes, at the time of Owl too many before Ekali America kaput. But Scoop collapsed, not the US. While you are waiting for the collapse of the United States, the Russian Federation turns into a rogue country and the occupier under sanctions. While someone I explain all this?

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